Ojha VP Chintan Baithak 2016 How it started Heard about stocks from my father in 2008 when I was in college Heard discussions with cousins who said Maine bola tha bech do Father held LampT ID: 918771
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Slide1
Investment Journey
Rohit
Ojha
VP
Chintan
Baithak
2016
Slide2How it started
Heard about stocks from my father in 2008 when I was in college. Heard discussions with cousins who said “Maine bola
tha
bech
do”. Father held L&T,
UltraTech
, Reliance,
tata
steel
etc
since 90s.
Started seriously reading in 2010. Stumbled upon TED and read all the
funda
threads.
Started investing only in 2012 after getting a good understanding about basic aspects
Slide3Phase 1: 2012-2014
Invested in midcaps based on return ratios. Avoided big mistakes. Lucky start !
Found VP and cloned seniors.
At the same time subscribed to an advisory
service. But was learning all the time.
Got success in
Mayur
,
Dhanuka
, Poly
Medicure
,
Kaveri
, PI, Alembic,
Shilpa
. Big winners- Ajanta, Avanti,
Page
,
Repco
,
Gruh
Big
learnings
Need to work with smaller companies to make big money. PE re-rating
Need to bet big. Increased equity allocation in 2014
Portfolio
construction
Pay
for
quality and average up
Slide4Phase 2: 2015-16
Realized that I had luckily made money earlier
but didn’t appreciate how good
some of these businesses were,
even though they were so well discussed…PI Industries,
Shilpa
, Alembic
Pharma
.
Blown away by
Pharma
Basics presentation by
Ananth
Shenoy
and by discussion on Alembic and
Shilpa
Started
to understand more about
great
businesses and management
Aspiration
U
nderstand a range of businesses across sectors.
Less
reliance on fellow investors- Independent thinking.
Understand different styles of investing- Arbitrage, contra.
Compound
at more than 30%
CAGR.
Plan to go full time but still far away from ready
Slide6Personality traits
Risk
mitigator
Invested most of the savings from salary so risk aversion was high
A
lways invested in quality businesses and managed to avoid big losses except once in Hawkins.
Exit on first signs of red
flags
eg
Kaveri
Avoid companies giving aggressive guidance
eg
Kellton
Tech
Comfort zone
Had been a cloner in well discussed businesses. Always followed the lead to build my conviction. Not done a PhD in any business yet, but slowly improving.
Have
invested in consumer and
pharma
businesses only
No contra bets… yet
Slide7Portfolio setup
Earlier 8-10 stock portfolio with minimum 5% allocation. Recently pushed to 12 for few small caps with very small allocation.
Long term (5 year view):
70%
in 5-6 businesses
Opportunistic bets (1-2 year view):
20%
in 3-4 businesses
Experimenting with
s
mallcaps
: 10%
Never
able to hold
cash. Need to work on this
10% of portfolio is leveraged
Slide8Excited by/Must haves/Ignorables
Excited by
Businesses moving up in value chain
Large
capex
completed/planned
Management that constantly strives to make the moat stronger. Capital allocation skills of management
eg
. Ajay
Piramal
IP driven businesses-
Pharma
, some niche manufacturers
Must haves
Growing Mid/small caps with large
and growing opportunity
size
Low debt or strong trend of debt reduction, High
RoE
, ROCE
At least 15% growth in
worst case scenario.
Ignorables
Promoter selling/pledging in small amounts as long as business is delivering
Slide9Buy/Sell decision
Buy decision
Long term bets- Visibility of >20% CAGR in 2-3
yrs
or a hockey stick moment within next 5 yrs. New idea has to be better than existing ones
O
pportunistic bets- Combination of techno
funda
Average up if company keeps delivering and valuations sane
Now
sell when
valuations are very high and growth starts to slow down.
Eg
Page at 14000, Hawkins at 2500 (in this case growth never happened),
Gruh
at 260
there is a better opportunity at that price
eg
shift from Ajanta at 1400 to Alembic at 600, Page to
Syngene
Management
makes a bad move
eg
Kaveri
diworseification
Don’t look too much into nifty levels
Slide10Process
R
ead
concalls
, whenever available.
More importance than annual
reports. Try to attend
concalls
of all holdings. Find it difficult to get a high confidence without
concalls
.
Less number driven. Understand how management has strategically built a strong business over last 3-5 years
Studying competition gives good insights
Read research reports to understand consensus views/estimates
Maintain decision log with reasons to buy/sell
Slide11Natural Skills
Excited by understanding
the Industry/Business
issues/challenges and competition mapping
Never done a Management
Q&A
but very interested in starting with
Syngene
.
Bad at balance sheet analysis