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What Will This Babbler Say Phillipi These men being Jews do exceedingly trouble our city And teach customs which are not lawful for us to receive neither to observe being Romans Thessalonica ID: 764980

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What Will This Babbler Say?

Phillipi “These men, being Jews, do exceedingly trouble our city, And teach customs, which are not lawful for us to receive, neither to observe, being Romans.”

Thessalonica “These that have turned the world upside down are come hither also; 7Whom Jason hath received: and these all do contrary to the decrees of Caesar, saying that there is another king, one Jesus.”

The Last Day Messenger: Many will misunderstand him because they have been taught Scripture in a certain way which they consider truth. When he comes against that, they will not believe. Even some true ministers will misunderstand the messenger because so much has been called God’s truth by deceivers. ( Pergamean Church Age)

Berea “But when the Jews of Thessalonica had knowledge that the word of God was preached of Paul at Berea, they came thither also, and stirred up the people.”

Athens “Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoics, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.”

Babbler “σπ ερμολόγος ” Scavenger or Scrapmonger, seed gathererFiguratively, this was a term based on the practice of birds in picking up seeds, used to describe one who acquires and adopts bits and pieces of various philosophies but with no respected master.

Revelation 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

63-0318 - The First Seal 74 And at the end of the Pentecostal age, we are supposed to receive, according to the Word, as God help me tonight to show you, through here, that we are to see, receive a messenger that will take all those loose ends out there and reveal the whole secret of God, for the rapturing of the Church.

62-1230E - Is This The Sign Of The End, Sir? Now watch. There is a lot of Truth lost out there, (why?) where others compromised on Truth. But this seventh angel don’t compromise on nothing. He gathers up all the loose ends, gathers them all up. And at his sounding, “All the mystery of God should be finished.” Oh! God, send him.

Epicureanism The main opponent of Stoicism God is transcendent – completely outside of the universe and does not intervene with it. Man has free will. Epicurus

Stoicism Taught publically at the Stoa (Porch)God is immanent – completely fills the universe actively (Logos) and passively (Matter).Man’s fate is predetermined Zeno

55-0117 - How The Angel Came To Me, And His Commission Now, there’s a limb on the Tree, that’s Calvinism, but there’s more limbs on the Tree, too. A tree has more than one limb. He just wanted to run it on out there into Eternal Security, and after a while you go on off into Universalism and you drop off out there somewhere, there’s no end to it. But when you get through with Calvinism, come back up and start on Arminianism. See, there’s another limb on the Tree, and another limb on the Tree, just keep on. The whole thing together makes the Tree.

60-0515E - Adoption #1 Now, the Book of Ephesians… is one of the greatest Books of the New Testament. It leaves us, on where Calvinism runs out on one limb, and Arminianism runs out on the other limb, but the Book of Ephesian draws it together and positionally places the Church.

72 Now, here you get God in just exactly, and between the Oneness and Trinity you’ll get the thing just exactly right now. 53-0729 - Questions And Answers On Genesis 175 …maybe the same man may listen to this tape someday, …would say, “Brother Branham is a Oneness.” I am not. I think you’re both wrong, both Oneness and Trinity. Not to be different, but it’s always the middle of the road. 61-0120 - The Water Baptism

Laying the cornerstone of the Branham Tabernacle, 1933 35 But that morning, the Holy Spirit said to me, as I was laying there. I went…In them days, I didn’t know to call it a vision. I just said it was a trance. And I saw a vision which spoke and said that my work would be between the two faculties of the Pentecostal, the trinity and the oneness, and there was an empty place on each side to be filled. I did not cross them up. I just broke from each tree and planted it down. And up into the heavens went the great trees, a growing quickly, and their fruits fell down, and they were delicious. I was eating them. And at the cross, just ahead of me, lay all covered with fruits. 57-0120M - The Impersonation Of Christianity

Acts 17:19-20 And they took him, and brought him unto Areopagus, saying, May we know what this new doctrine, whereof thou speakest , is? For thou bringest certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean.

Stoics embraced a vitalist understanding of nature, which is permeated by two principles: an active one (identified with reason and God, referred to as the Logos) and a passive one (substance, matter). The active principle is un-generated and indestructible, while the passive one—which is identified with the four classical elements of water, fire, earth and air—is destroyed and recreated at every, eternally recurring, cosmic conflagration, a staple of Stoic cosmology. The rational principle of the cosmos, the Logos is identified with aether, or the Stoic Fire.

Acts 17:23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.

It is wise, not listening to me but to the Logos, to agree that all things are one. The one and only wise thing wishes and does not wish to be called by the name of Zeus. Heraclitus (535 BC – 475 BC), On Nature “all entities come to be in accordance with this Logos… that universal principle which animates and rules the world”Heraclitus, fragment DK B1

Acts 17:27-29 God intended that they would seek Him and perhaps reach out for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us. ‘For in Him we live and move and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are His offspring.’ Therefore, being offspring of God, we should not think that the Divine Being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by man’s skill and imagination.

Paul is quoting Cretica of the pre-Socratic philosopher-poet Epimenides of Crete. Epimenides was a legendary philosopher from the time of Pythagoras, around 600 BCE. In this poem he is addressing Zeus, whom the Cretans have declared is mortal (which Epimenides says is a lie).They fashioned a tomb for you, holy and high one, Cretans, always liars, evil beasts, idle bellies. But you are not dead: you live and abide forever, For in you we live and move and have our being. Epimenides (600 BCE), Cretica

In the same verse (28) of Acts 17, Paul quotes the philosopher Aratus of Soli (310 BCE – 240 BCE), also speaking of Zeus; ‘For we are his offspring.’ From ZEUS let us begin. Him do we mortals never leave unnamed: full of Zeus are all the streets and all the market-places of menfull is the sea and the havens thereof.Always we all have need of Zeusfor we are also his offspringand he in his kindness unto men giveth favourable signs and wakeneth people to work.Aratus of Soli (c. 270 BCE), Phaenomena

Most glorious of the immortals, invoked by many names, ever all-powerful, Zeus, the First Cause of Nature, who rules all things with Law, Hail! It is right for mortals to call upon you, since from you we have our being, we whose lot it is to be God’s image,we alone of all mortal creatures that live and move upon the earth.Accordingly, I will praise you with my hymn and ever sing of your might.Hymn to Zeus by Cleanthes, second head of the ancient Stoa .

Philo of Alexandria (20 BC – 50 AD) "the Logos of the living God is the bond of everything, holding all things together and binding all the parts, and prevents them from being dissolved and separated.“ Philo, De ProfugisThe Logos is the “firstborn of god,” the "archangel of many names," "taxiarch" (corps-commander), the "name of God," also the "heavenly Adam", the "man, the word of the eternal God.“ Philo, Questions and Answers on Genesis

Seneca the Younger (c. 4 BC – AD 65): Most important figure of the Late Stoa , Advisor to Nero "God is near you, he is with you, he is within you. This is what I mean, Lucilius : a holy spirit indwells within us, one who marks our good and bad deeds, and is our guardian. As we treat this spirit, so are we treated by it. Indeed, no man can be good without the help of God. Can one rise superior to fortune unless God helps him to rise? " – Seneca, Epistle 41. "Jupiter," "Providence," "Fate," and so on are all names for the active, divine element that shapes the universe (the Logos or creative fire).

Collossians 13-20: Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers:

all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Hebrews 1:1-12 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: They shall perish; but thou remainest ; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.

17 And in there… Now, see, this is just like a child playing before the door. It was the Son of God, the Logos. And I can see Him out there, and He spake , and said, “Let there be light.” And there was nothing. But there was something happened, and a atom turned there and begin to whirl around this a way. The sun begin to come into existence, because He said, “Let there be.” There’s the authority. Where did He make it from? I don’t know. There was nothing to make it from. But He believed His own Word, and there was light. 50-0815 - Who Is God?

And He had not yet, He would only ready to do His great High Priest work at that time. He had just been anointed. And when He was here on earth, He lived a life, and made Himself a little lower that the Angels in order to take away sin. Just think, that Who He was. He was the Logos that came from God in the beginning. He was the Word of God. He was the Angel of God that was with the children of Israel in the wilderness. He was the great supernatural of heaven, none other than Jehovah Himself, and came down here on the earth and became a man, not only a man, but became the servant of man, and took upon Himself a make of no reputation, but became a foot washer.     56-0405 - The Resurrection Of Jesus

As the eternal Logos (God) was manifest in the Son, and in Jesus dwelt all the fulness of the Godhead bodily, and that Eternal One was the Father manifest in flesh, and thereby gained the title of Son, even so we, eternal in His thoughts in our turn became the many-membered Spoken Word Seed, manifest in flesh, and those eternal thoughts now manifest in flesh are the sons of God, even as we are so called.    An Exposition Of The Seven Church Ages - 4 - The Smyrnaean Church Age

Justin Martyr (100 AD - 165 AD): The Jews, accordingly, being throughout of opinion that it was the Father of the universe who spake to Moses, though He who spake to him was indeed the Son of God, who is called both Angel and Apostle.... who also, being the first-begotten Word of God, is even God. And of old He appeared in the shape of fire and in the likeness of an angel to Moses and to the other prophets; but now in the times of your reign, having, as we before said, become Man by a virgin, according to the counsel of the Father, for the salvation of those who believe on Him...Justin Martyr, First Apology

Tertullian (160 AD - 220 AD); called "the father of Latin Christianity" and "the founder of Western theology. Because God is in like manner a Father, and He is also a Judge; but He has not always been Father and Judge, merely on the ground of His having always been God. For He could not have been the Father previous to the Son, nor a Judge previous to sin. There was, however, a time when neither sin existed with Him, nor the Son; the former of which was to constitute the Lord a Judge, and the latter a Father. Tertullian, Part Second, Section 3, Against Hermogenes, Chapter 3.

Hippolytus of Rome (170 AD – 235 AD), one of the most important second-third century Christian theologians: The first and only (one God), both Creator and Lord of all, had nothing coeval with Himself; not infinite chaos, nor measureless water, nor solid earth, nor dense air, not warm fire, nor refined spirit, nor the azure canopy of the stupendous firmament. But He was One, alone in Himself. By an exercise of His will He created things that are, which antecedently had no existence, except that He willed to make them.

Hippolytus of Rome (170 AD – 235 AD), continued: Therefore this solitary and supreme Deity, by an exercise of reflection, brought forth the Logos first; not the word in the sense of being articulated by voice, but as a ratiocination of the universe, conceived and residing in the divine mind. Him alone He produced from existing things; for the Father Himself constituted existence, and the being born from Him was the cause of all things that are produced. The Logos was in the Father Himself ... The Logos alone of this God is from God himself; wherefore also the Logos is God, being the substance of God. Hippolytus, The Refutation of All Heresies , Book 10, Chapter 29.

Clement of Alexandria (150 AD - 215 AD), a Christian theologian who taught at the School of Alexandria. Whether, then, the Phrygians are shown to be the most ancient people by the goats of the fable; or, on the other hand, the Arcadians by the poets, who describe them as older than the moon; or, finally, the Egyptians by those who dream that this land first gave birth to gods and men: yet none of these at least existed before the world. But before the foundation of the world were we, who, because destined to be in Him, pre-existed in the eye of God before—we the rational creatures of the Word of God, on whose account we date from the beginning; for “in the beginning was the Word.” Well, inasmuch as the Word was from the first, He was and is the divine source of all things; but inasmuch as He has now assumed the name Christ, consecrated of old, and worthy of power, he has been called by me the New Song. Stromata, I

15 Not long ago I was talking to my good friend, a few weeks ago, William Booth- Clibborn , a very clever scholar, one of the best I ever talked to. And we were riding along together, and Brother Booth said to me, he was saying some kind of a great big word, you know. If you know him how he can speak them, and preach in seven different languages, and me a little dummy set by his side. And I… He said, begin to use different Greek words and so forth. I said, “Brother Booth, the Lord hasn’t given me the gift of interpretation.” I said, “I—I just don’t know what you’re talking about.” He said, “Well, you little sinner,” said, “you don’t know your Bible.”

And I said, “I don’t know the Book, but I know the Writer, and the Author real well.”…?… And I said, “Brother Booth- Clibborn , to know the Book is not Life. To know the catechism’s not Life, or to know the Bible is not Life, but to know Him is Life.” And I said, “I know Him.” And he jerked me over and bumped my head against his a little bit. You know he cuts up like that. He said, “I just have to love you anyhow.” So I… He was a scholarly man. 56-0405 - The Resurrection Of Jesus

Down from His glory William Booth- Clibborn 1921 Down from His glory Ever living story My God and Savior came And Jesus was His name Born in a manger To His own a stranger A Man of sorrows, tears and agony O how I love Him! How I adore Him My breath, my sunshine, my all in all The great Creator became my Savior And all God's fullness dwelleth in Him What condescension Bringing us redemption That in the dead of night Not one faint hope in sight God, gracious, tender Laid aside His splendor Stooping to woo, to win, to save my soul O how I love Him! How I adore Him My breath, my sunshine, my all in all The great Creator became my Savior And all God's fullness dwelleth in Him