INSTATE VERSUS OUTOFSTATE AND DECLINING NUMBERS NM BOARD OF LICENSURE EXPERIENCE CA SPIROCK 2015 AND 2016 CURRENT CHAIRMAN PROFESSIONAL SURVEYORS COMMITTEE TOPIC THE FUTURE OF SURVEYING MY REASONING FOR A CONCERN ID: 655326
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THE FUTURE OF SURVEYINGNEW MEXICO SURVEYORS IN-STATE VERSUS OUT-OF-STATEAND DECLINING NUMBERS
NM BOARD OF LICENSURE EXPERIENCE
C.A. SPIROCK 2015 AND 2016
CURRENT CHAIRMAN, PROFESSIONAL SURVEYORS COMMITTEESlide2
TOPIC: THE FUTURE OF SURVEYINGMY REASONING FOR A CONCERN:BASED ON 2 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE* ON THE NM BOARD, REVIEWING APPLICANTS FOR LICENSURE EXAMS, INTERN CERTIFICATES AND COMITY FOR SURVEYORS REGISTERED IN OTHER STATES:IN THOSE TWO YEARS – THERE WERE 19 APPROVED EXAM APPLICANTS AND 1
APPROVED INTERN APPLICANT,
AT LEAST 23 ARE RETIRED OR INACTIVE SURVEYORS AS REPORTED TO THE BOARD, IN THAT PERIOD,
THERE IS A SHARED CONCERN EXPRESSED BY NMPS AND NCEES REGARDING THE DECLINE IN SURVEY INTERNS, APPLICANTS AND THE AGING OF CURRENT REGISTRANTS,
THERE ARE MANY
P.O.B.
AND
AMERICAN SURVEYOR
MAGAZINE ARTICLES THAT HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED AND PRESENTED (JEFFREY LUCAS, PHILLIP E. ADAMS, ET.AL.) THAT EXPRESS THESE CONCERNS ON A STATE AND NATIONAL LEVEL.
* CLIFF A. SPIROCK, TERM :NOVEMBER 2014 TO JULY, 2018Slide3
TOPIC: THE FUTURE OF SURVEYINGTEXAS 2015TYPICAL P.O.B. ARTICLE EXCERPT: Philip E. Adams, RPLS 5610, president of Adams Surveying Company, LLC, Richardson, Texas: 2015http://www.pobonline.com/articles/97715-guest-column...
“We are witnessing a downward trend in the number of active land surveyors throughout the United States. Provided by the Texas Board of Professional Land Surveying, the numbers below represent a 20-year history of examinees and actual licensed land surveyors in this huge state.”
Year RPLS Examinees
1995 3,185 416 2005 2,926 350 2011 2,980 334
1996 3,141 379 2006 2,937 387 2012 2,858 261
1997 2,879 236 2007 2,943 359 2013 2,885 214
1998 2,865 398 2008 2,895 369 2014 2,923 250
1999 2,858 413 2009 2,979 415 2015 2,897 272
2000 2,853 587 2010 2,991 401
The above list reflects a 10-percent drop in 20 years of Licensed Land Surveyors in Texas; the number of licensees averaged 460 per year prior to the degree requirement and 328 per year since the requirement for a degree went into effect. It appears we do not have enough qualified or interested candidates to apply for licensure. This may be for a multitude of reasons, but we simply do not have the numbers needed to maintain an adequate number of qualified land surveyors needed for a robust economy.”Slide4
TOPIC: THE FUTURE OF SURVEYINGWELL, THAT’S TEXAS. WHAT ABOUT NEW MEXICO?YOU SHOULD ALL BE AWARE THAT BOARD MEMBERS MUST TAKE AN OATH AND WE ARE GIVEN MANY INSTRUMENTS REGARDING OUR PUBLIC INTEREST AND CONDUCT.
BOTH OUR OATH AND THE ROLE OF A BOARD MEMBER INSTRUCTIONS (AT RIGHT) RECITE:
“ …It is the duty and responsibility of an individual to understand from the onset that the role of a board member is to protect the public health, welfare and safety of the citizens of the State of New Mexico. …”
THERE IS NO LANGUAGE SUCH AS:
“ TO PERPETUATE THE PROFESSION OF LAND SURVEYING”, OR
“TO ENCOURAGE (OR DISCOURAGE) A GREATER NUMBER OF REGISTERED SURVEYORS”, OR
“TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHERS TO PRACTICE IN OUR STATE”.
THOSE OBJECTIVES ARE THE PURVUE OF THE PROFESSIONAL SOCIETIES AND OTHER DISCIPLINES.Slide5
MY 2-YR. NUMBERS (FROM MEETING NOTES AND MINUTES):
NEW MEXICO INTERNS = 1, APPROVED FOR EXAM = 19Slide6
OK, THERE MAY BE A PROBLEM:QUESTION: HOW DO WE COMPARE WITH OTHER STATES?N.C.E.E.S. HAS BEEN REQUESTING MEMBER BOARDS FOR STATE DATAAND THEY HAVE MOST STATES BY RESIDENT AND NON-RESIDENT REGISTRANTS:Slide7
OK, THERE MAY BE A PROBLEM:N.C.E.E.S. 2016 DATA (CONTINUED):
NEW MEXICO RESIDENT REGISTRANTS = 223
NEW MEXICO NON-RESIDENT REGISTRANTS = 227
NEW MEXICO RESIDENT DUAL ENGINEER/SURVEYOR = 55Slide8
WHERE DOES NEW MEXICO RANK?N.C.E.E.S. 2016 DATA AND NM (CHARTED) FOR COMPARISON PURPOSESPERCENTAGE OF SINGLE LICENSEES WHO ARE RESIDENT
NEW MEXICO 2016 SURVEYORS (APPROX. 450) – PERCENTAGE RESIDENT= 49.6%Slide9
WHERE DOES NEW MEXICO RANK?N.C.E.E.S. 2016 DATA AND NM (CHARTED) FOR COMPARISON PURPOSESPERCENT OF SINGLE LICENSE SURVEYORS WHO ARE RESIDENT:
NEW MEXICO SURVEYORS (APPROX. 450) – PERCENTAGE RESIDENT= 49.6% ABOUT 30
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WHERE DOES NEW MEXICO RANK?N.C.E.E.S. 2016 DATA AND NM (CHARTED) FOR COMPARISON PURPOSESAND, COMPARED TO OTHER STATES BY POPULATION (SURVEYORS PER PERSON):
NEW MEXICO SURVEYORS PER PERSON POPULATION = 4624 - ABOUT 30
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TOPIC: THE FUTURE OF SURVEYINGMY OBSERVATIONS:BASED ON RESIDENT VS. NON-RESIDENT SURVEYORS, REGISTERED IN OTHER STATES, WE ARE NOT ATYPICAL.BASED ON PERCENTAGE BY POPULATION AND SURVEYORS REGISTERED IN OTHER STATES, WE ARE NOT ATYPICAL.
THE NUMBER OF INACTIVE OR RETIRED NEW MEXICO SURVEYORS IS IN QUESTION. MY NUMBERS REFLECT ONLY THOSE INDIVIDUALS REPORTED AT BOARD HEARINGS.
THE NUMBER OF DECEASED SURVEYORS APPEARS TO BE UNACCOUNTED FOR,
THE NUMBER OF SURVEYORS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN RENEWED IN 2017 MAY AFFECT ACTIVE SURVEYOR COUNT.
THE DECLINE IS EVIDENT, BUT NOT ATTRIBUTABLE TO OUR STATE’S HISTORICAL DATA. IT IS A NATION-WIDE DILEMNA.
OTHER STATES MAY BE REVISING THEIR LEGISLATION OR CODES IN-PART TO ENCOURAGE A LARGER SURVEYOR BASE (ARKANSAS, IDAHO, TEXAS), BUT NONE ARE DISCLOSING OR HAVE ANY SUCCESS RATES.
ALL OF MY STATE RESEARCH SEEMS TO CONCLUDE THAT EXCITING OUR YOUTH AND ENCOURAGING CURRENT AND FUTURE STUDENTS, IF POSSIBLE, MAY BE THE ONLY KEY TO KEEPING THE PROFESSION VIABLE.
NORTH CAROLINA HAS AN AGGRESSIVE WEBSITE AND ACTIVITIES TO ENLIST INTEREST IN THE PROFESSION. SEE: http://www.beasurveyor.com/NEW MEXICO MUST REVIEW ALL TECHNIQUES AND TAILOR OUR PROCESS TO ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS TO ATTAIN LICENSURE! (AS OPPOSED TO INVITING MORE REGISTRATION COMITY BY MULTI-STATE SURVEYORS TO PRACTICE HERE WITHOUT A RESIDENT BASE),* CLIFF A. SPIROCK, TERM :NOVEMBER 2014 TO JULY, 2018