a Call RRASSSR Annual Meeting Atlanta GA Ryan Curnutt The Lutheran ChurchMissouri Synod 10282016 What we learned from Lutheran pastors who left the ministry Background In 2001 Dean ID: 598787
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Clergy without a Call:
RRA/SSSR Annual Meeting – Atlanta, GARyan Curnutt, The Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod10/28/2016
What we learned from Lutheran pastors who left the ministrySlide2
Background
In 2001, Dean Hoge and Jacqueline Wenger (Pastors in Transition, Eerdmans, 2005) studied former pastors in the LCMS and four other major denominations.Assemblies of God, ELCA, United Methodist, Presbyterian-USA
In 2013 the LCMS Convention resolved to study its “ inactive” pastors (that is , ministers who do not have a ministry call)
Survey of LCMS District Presidents in 2014, about the inactive pastors in each of their districts
Focus Groups with Inactive Ministers in April, 2016
In Fall 2015, LifeWay conducts their (Phase 3) survey on former pastors, which included an LCMS sample.Slide3
Pastor Rick
Rick (early 40s) was happy with the congregation he was placed in after graduating seminary. But soon, his wife and oldest child became ill. Eventually they learned that their symptoms were a reaction to chemicals in the air from local refineries. For the sake of his family’s health, Rick resigned from his first call. He planned to take another pastor position in a different community, but he had trouble finding a church that would hire after apparently abandoning his first congregation. Eventually, Rick returned to his previous career in software development.Slide4
Comparison of Survey results:
LifeWay SampleLCMS OversampleSlide5
Differences-Ministry
LCMSMuch shorter careers as pastor25% less than 5 years 16% over 20 yearsLess likely to have been in a small congregations
65% over 100 people
12% under 50 people
LifeWay Sample
15% less
than 5
years
29 %
over 20 years
48
% over
100
people
25
%
under 50 peopleSlide6
Differences-personal
LCMS66% agreed that they protected time with their family39% say family resented role58% spouse found a role 22
% strongly disagreed
67% spouse
was enthusiastic about their ministry
53% concerned about finances
55% time with God 5X/week
LifeWay Sample
74% agreed that they protected time with their family
33% say family resented role
70
% spouse found a
role
13
% strongly disagreed
78% spouse
was enthusiastic about their ministry
72% concerned about finances
68% time with God 5X/weekSlide7
Similarities
LCMS Sample44% served last congregation 5 years or less45% this was first senior pastorate81% workingMost (
66
%) still in ministry
51% said demands were too much
60% felt free to say
"no
“
Change in call was top reason to leave pastorate (57%), then conflict
LifeWay
Sample
40% served last congregation 5 years or less
38% this was first senior pastorate
81% working
Most
(
52
%) still in ministry
48% said demands were too much
68% felt free to say
"no
“
Change in call was top reason to leave pastorate (40%), then conflictSlide8
Similarities-conflict
LCMS32% left because of conflict– second highest reason86
%
reported
having listened
for signs of conflict
Sources
of conflict
–
Ranked:
Changes pastor proposed
– 59%
Personal attack – 57%
Conflict
with lay
leaders – 54%
With a patriarch or
matriarch
of
the congregation –
49%
Over leadership style – 48%
Expectations of pastor – 46%
LifeWay Sample
25% left because
of conflict
–
second highest reason
84
%
reported
having listened
for signs of conflict
Sources
of conflict
–
Ranked:
Changes pastor proposed
– 56%
Personal attack – 54%
Conflict
with lay
leaders – 47%
With a patriarch or
matriarch
of
the congregation –
45%
Over leadership style – 40%
Expectations of pastor – 38%Slide9
Pastor Dale
Pastor Dale (late 50s) took a call at a congregation knowing that it was going to be rough. The church had just been through a major conflict brought on by their previous pastor. Dale was called to lead them through the healing process. But before his first year was up, he was approached by the elders: “You keep preaching about forgiveness. We are not interested in forgiving [previous pastor]. We want to move forward, so you need to stop looking back. Find something else to preach, or find somewhere else to preach.”
Pastor Dale did not stop preaching about forgiveness, and it was not before he was forced to resign. He has not been able to find a pastorate in the years since.Slide10
Focus groupsSlide11
Methodology
This past spring, 18 ordained LCMS men were invited to St. Louis from across the country.Each of these pastors had at some time spent an extended amount of time on “candidate status”. None of these men had done anything that would make them ineligible for ordained ministry in the LCMS.A few of these men eventually received calls, others finally “ moved on” into other ministries or secular careers, and some are still on "call lists" waiting for a new church.Two focus groups were over a week apart with different participants, yet the sentiment expressed in both was practically identical.Slide12
Pastors Abe and Glen
Pastor Abe (mid 40s) was the sole pastor at a congregation for 15 years and everything seemed to be going well. Then, he was abruptly asked to resign, without being given a reason. The congregation called a much younger pastor to fill his place. Only later did Abe learn that the same thing had happened to the pastor prior to him, as well as the pastor prior to that. This congregation had a history of pushing pastors away right around the 15 year mark, to get someone younger and fresher.
Associate Pastor Glen (late 20s): was fresh out of seminary when he was placed in a small urban congregation. At the time of his placement, he was told by his DP to that the church was not viable and was certainly going to close soon. Within a year, it did close. But when Glen went to find another position, he found that no one was willing to hire someone who had “killed his prior church”.Slide13
Purpose
The primary purpose of these groups was to assess the reaction of these men to recommendations from a Presidential Task Force regarding reform to the call process and the treatment of inactive ministers.A secondary goal for these groups was to explore and assess the quality of care for pastors, specifically pastors in conflicted congregations or those in between calls.This will be the focus of the rest of my talk todaySlide14
Identity and Isolation
“Have I somehow disqualified myself? Is God done with me?” “I
have no idea where I stand. I'm not even sure
I exist.”
“
I visit shut-ins, conduct funerals, and preach on Sunday mornings. Yet my church says that I am
inactive
in ministry. I am something less than a
real
pastor.”
“
If you don't seek out care, you won't have any – because there is no one obligated to
provided
it.”
“I was really close with the other pastors in the area. But the moment I was trouble,
they
all just stopped talking to me.”Slide15
Results in Lack of Trust
“My DP is supposed to take care of me, but he also plays a key role in finding a new job. If I am struggling with something, and I open up to him about it…I'm done.” “After everything that has happened, my wife can’t believe I would still go back if they gave me a chance. She has
completely lost trust
in denomination’s leadership.”
“
Silence from
on
high inevitably leads to
sarcasm
, bitterness and conspiracy theories.”Slide16
They still Need Care
From where have you received your pastoral care?Practically in unison: “ I don’t”
“[My DP] only called me when there was bad news or when it was
time
to fill out my annual paperwork.”
“
I understand my DP is busy. He oversees many pastors who are in the trenches.
But
some of us
have
gone from the trenches to the infirmaries, and there is
no
one there for us.”
“
How would you pastor a lay person in
your
church that was struggling with his job or suddenly unemployed? How would you pastor his family? Just
do
that for me and for my family.”Slide17
Not Much has Changed Since 2001 ( Hoge & Wenger
)Despite major differences in the pastor call process and in ecclesiastical structure, denominations are not that different from one another
in terms of the pastors
’
experience.
Many pastors approaching burnout feel isolated
and unsupported.
There are problem pastors and problem
lay people
.
Pastors are entitled and independent - come off as arrogant
Lay people
are consumerist and
hold less reverence for pastors
And a
conflicted situation can provoke the worst out of both
Less
reverence for the pastoral office and distrust of institutions.
Lay people do not show as much respect for their pastors
Pastors have a high level of distrust of their judicatory leaders.
Conflict is the second most cited reason for leaving the ministry, second only to being called to other ministry.Slide18
Pastor Carl
Associate Pastor Carl (mid 30s) “We had been having budget trouble for a while. Out the blue, I was called to a Trustee meeting at church, which I knew wasn’t good. They told me there was no longer money in the budget to pay me. I wasn’t even given time to even call my wife. They told me to gather my things and pointed me to the door. As I left, one of the lay leaders said to me, ‘If you tell anyone what happened here, our lawyers will come after you.’ The senior pastor was too afraid to say anything, and my DP never came to my aid.”Slide19
Recommendations
The following recommendations were directed toward denominational leaders – but some can also be applied to other pastors and even congregation leaders, in terms of taking care of other pastors.Slide20
SO RECEIVE HIM IN THE LORD WITH ALL JOY, AND HONOR SUCH MEN, FOR HE NEARLY DIED FOR THE WORK OF CHRIST...
O RECEIVE HIMPhilippians 2:29-30Slide21
Recommendations – Be a Pastor to Pastors
Most of what we found confirmed the general wisdom. But though it seems obvious, it isn’t taking placeBe the pastor to the pastorsHow would you pastor a lay person struggling with their job / unemploymentDo not neglect to care for their families
Be intentional – its up to you to (re)build trust.
Pray for them. Not just when you are with them , but even when they are not aware that you are praying for themSlide22
Recommendations –Facing Conflict
Training – Seminaries need to devote whole courses to handling congregational conflictWhole-Person CareThey will have other issues too– don’t let the conflict situation be the only thing you talk aboutDon’t let them get to the point that every time you call they expect bad newsGet them reinforcementsConflict means extra work without a break from their normal duties
A helper to handle some pastoral duties
Visitation, preaching , Bible classes, etc.
Or just someone to commiserate withSlide23
Recommendations – Leaving Ministry
Much of their personal and spiritual identity is tied up in being a pastorSeminary degrees are a hindrance in the job marketOver-qualified by degree, but under-qualified in training and experienceThey may not even know what other careers they might be suited for, or how to find themSlide24
A noble goal
Moral – just as pastors are to care for their parishioners, the Church as a whole needs to care for its pastors.Practical – the Church needs these pastors, and we need them to be at their best.Witness– the world is watching, they will notice how we treat our own.