July 2013 July 2013 Pat Thaler IEEE 8021 DCB task group chair Slide 1 8021Qcd PAR Does IETF provide any similar VLAN tag No VLAN tags are defined in IEEE 8021Q and was fundamental to the initial IEEE 8021Q VLAN tags carry ID: 402663
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Response to IEEE 802.11 comments on PAR for IEEE P802.1Qcd
July 2013
July 2013
Pat Thaler, IEEE 802.1 DCB task group chair.
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802.1Qcd
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Does IETF provide any similar VLAN tag?
No, VLAN tags are defined in IEEE 802.1Q and was fundamental to the initial IEEE 802.1Q. VLAN tags carry QoS
information (i.e. priority) and VLAN IDs.
How does VLAN tag simplify management
? The VLAN ID is used to mark traffic as belonging to a Virtual LAN. This amendment simplifies management of end stations (i.e. devices that create and are the destination of traffic, rather than bridging the traffic) by providing a means for the adjacent bridge to tell the end station what VLAN ID to use for a particular application. We already have a similar TLV that indicates the priority to use for a particular application. See IEEE 802.1Q Annex D.2.12.3 (currently published in IEEE 802.1Qaz).In 5.2.b, the last scope sentence is actually a need statement and should be moved to 5.5. Accept, we will move that sentence to the start of 5.5
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Pat Thaler, IEEE 802.1 DCB task group chair.
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802.1Qcd continued
5C
Slide 6 Please define the scope of “end stations” or provide some examples.
This term is defined in IEEE 802 and used in IEEE 802.1Q.The 5C alternately claims that Qcd
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simplify network management and end station management – which is it
? It doesn’t say that it simplifies network management – it says management of such networks. The network includes the end station network interfaces and the bridges, even though the term “network management” often is used in industry meaning just management of bridges. Typically, different administrators and management applications are involved in managing end stations and bridges. This presents a challenge for coordinating end stations with the network to which they are attached. DCBX (part of IEEE 802.1Qaz) was created to address this by providing a way for the adjacent bridge to tell an end station things it needed to know about the network configuration.
The Application VLAN ID TLV fills a gap in the information currently covered by DCBX. This simplifies end station management as well as management of the network as a whole.
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Pat Thaler, IEEE 802.1 DCB task group chair
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