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Slide1
Approved Revisions to the Associate of Science Degree
Brian Durham
Deputy Director for Academic Affairs
Illinois Community College BoardSlide2Slide3
The Old
Associate
Degree in Science
The
old structure
of the AA and AS degrees, as defined by the ICCB, is as follows
:
Major
Field and Electives:
10-27
semester hours
Additional College Requirements:
0-9 semester
hours
Major
Field Subtotal: 23-27 semester
hours
Total: between 60 and 64 semester hoursSlide4
The Old Associate Degree in
Science Continued
The
old
AS degree is identical to the AA degree model.
Students follow the same course-taking patterns, no matter what their intended major course of study, and no matter what
baccalaureate institution the
student wishes to transfer to.
Community Colleges across Illinois have reported that students often transfer before finishing the associate’s degree and students sometimes report to advisors that the associate degree is not useful to them.Slide5
Illinois Community College Board
The Illinois system recognizes three specialized degrees (AFA, AAT and AES) that were created to accommodate curricula (fine arts, teaching, and engineering) for which the current AA/AS degree structure
does not
work
.
The problem
the
AFA and AES degrees
in particular were designed
to address is that native university students spread general education coursework over the entire four years of undergraduate study, in order to include majors-level studies in their first two years.
Unfortunately
, this problem is not limited to art and engineering; it is well known that the same complication arises with the AS degree in certain other disciplines, such as physics, chemistry and biology.Slide6
New Associate Degree in Science
The
new design associate’s degree
would
allow a student to replicate, as closely as possible, the first two years of undergraduate study in the student’s chosen major field of study
.
In return,
s
tudents
should be able, with reasonable confidence,
to
achieve junior status upon transfer. Slide7
New Associate Degree in Science Continued
Students who satisfactorily achieve the above goal in 60-64 community college semester hours deserve an associate’s degree.
Under
the
old
AS degree structure, however, this is simply impossible for certain major fields of
study,
such as physics, chemistry and biology
.
This is because the amount of university majors-required coursework combined with the GECC requirements exceeds the credit totals in the current AS degree model.
Many
community college students face this choice: either complete the associate’s degree and transfer short of junior status in their chosen major, or replicate the first two years of university study and skip the associate’s degree.
In the first case, the student may well be faced with a fifth year of undergraduate study; in the second, the community college may be unable to award that student a degree at all. Slide8
New Associate Degree in Science Continued
Given the growing emphasis on improving college graduation rates,
the ICCB, in partnership with community colleges,
should strive to remove artificial barriers to graduation whenever possible and appropriate
.
If
an existing degree structure increases the likelihood that students will be forced to take more than four years to complete their undergraduate studies, then that structure should be revised, providing academic standards are not sacrificed.
Recent discussions
with community colleges, related
to the content of the AS degree have centered on the fact that, for such majors as mentioned above, the AS degree simply fails to accomplish the purposes suggested herein. Slide9
New Associate Degree in Science Continued
Modify the General Education Component of the AS Degree without compromising the integrity of the
GECC
:
The
revisions are
designed to address
t
he
present degree
structure, which requires
a completed IAI GECC package as part of the AS degree.
This
, in turn, poses a challenge to students pursuing certain science curricula. In particular, it may require the student to postpone some necessary major-level course work until after transfer.
This
may lead to the student’s transferring with the associate’s
degree, but
without having achieved junior standing.
As
a result the student may be unable to graduate on time.
This problem can be solved merely by allowing for the AS degree to be awarded without a completed GECC package, as is done with the AES and AFA degrees. The package could then be completed post-transfer, again as is currently done under the AES and AFA degree models.Slide10
New Modifications of Associate Degree in
Science
Communication:
9 semester
hours
(includes Composition I and II and Speech
)
Social and Behavioral Science:
6
semester hours
Humanities
and Fine Arts:
6 semester hours
Life
and Physical Sciences:
10-11
semester
hours
with
a
lab
Mathematics
: 6-9 semester hours
Major
Field and Electives:
10-27 semester hours
Additional
College Requirements:
0-9 semester hours
Total
: between 60 and 64 semester hoursSlide11
New Modifications of Associate Degree in Science Continued
The revision
establish
a redistribution of the general education core across all four years of the baccalaureate degree, which allows the student to take more major-level coursework during the first two years of study at the community college.
The
old
AS degree structure is far from satisfactory; it’s only apparent advantage seems to be its simplicity.
The
new AS
described
not
only offers students a broader set of
choices,
but also provides smoother pathways to degree completion. Slide12
ASSOCIATE IN ARTS DEGREE
The Associate in Arts (AA) Degree is designed to complete the lower-division (freshman and sophomore) portion of a Bachelor of Arts (BA) Degree. The Associate in Arts Degree includes the transferable General Education Core and the lower-division major field core courses recommended by the Illinois Articulation Initiative. The Associate in Arts Degree is ideally suited for students desiring a Bachelor of Arts Degree in areas such as liberal arts and sciences, English, psychology, and many other fields.
General Education Core
37-41 semester credit hours
Communications
:
3
courses (9 semester credits*), including a two-course sequence in writing (6 semester credits) and one course (3 semester
credits
) in oral
communication
Mathematics
:
1
to 2 courses (3 to 6 semester credits)
Physical
and Life Sciences:
2
courses (7 to 8 semester credits), with one course selected from the life sciences and one course from the physical sciences
and
including at
least
one laboratory course
Humanities
and Fine Arts:
3
courses (9 semester credits), with at least one course selected from humanities and at least one course from the fine arts
Social
and Behavioral Sciences:
3
courses (9 semester credits), with courses selected from at least two disciplines
Additional College AA Degree Requirements
0-9
semester credit hours
Major Field & Elective Courses
10-27
semester credit hours
TOTAL
60-64
semester credit hoursSlide13
ASSOCIATE IN SCIENCE DEGREE (Old)
The Associate in Science (AS) Degree is designed to complete the lower-division (freshman and sophomore) portion of a Bachelor of Science (BS) Degree. The Associate in Science Degree includes the transferable General Education Core Curriculum and the lower–division major field core courses recommended by the Illinois Articulation Initiative. The Associate in Science Degree is ideally suited for students seeking a Bachelor of Science Degree in areas such as biology, business, criminal justice, and many other fields.
General Education Core
37-41 semester credit hours
Communications
:
3
courses (9 semester credits), including a two-course sequence in writing (6 semester credits) and one course (3 semester
credits
) in oral
communication
Mathematics
:
1
to 2 courses (3 to 6 semester credits)
Physical
and Life Sciences:
2
courses (7 to 8 semester credits), with one course selected from the life sciences and one course from the physical sciences and
including
at
least
one laboratory course
Humanities
and Fine Arts:
3
courses (9 semester credits), with at least one course selected from humanities and at least one course from the fine arts
Social
and Behavioral Sciences:
3
courses (9 semester credits), with courses selected from at least two disciplines
Additional College AS Degree Requirements
0-9
semester credit hours
Major Field & Elective Courses
10-27
semester credit hours
TOTAL
60-64
semester credit hoursSlide14
ASSOCIATE IN SCIENCE DEGREE (New)
The Associate in Science (AS) Degree is designed to complete the lower-division (freshman and sophomore) portion of a baccalaureate degree in such disciplines as Chemistry, Biology, Physics, and Mathematics. Baccalaureate science programs are highly structured and require extensive mathematics and science courses at the lower-division level. As a result, the AS Degree does not include the entire General Education Core Curriculum. This means that students who complete the AS Degree may need to complete one additional Humanities or Fine Arts course and one additional Social Science or Behavioral Science course to complete the Illinois Articulation Initiative General Education Core Curriculum as part of the requirements for the baccalaureate degree of the university to which they transfer. The guidelines for the Associate in Science Degree are as follows:
General Education Core
31-35 semester credit hours
Communications
:
3
courses (9 semester credits), including a two-course sequence in writing (6 semester credits) and one course (3 semester
credits
) in oral
communication
Mathematics
:
2
to 3 courses (6 to 9 semester credits)
Physical
and Life Sciences:
3
courses (10 to 11 semester credits), with one course selected from the life sciences and one course from the physical sciences
and
including
at
least one laboratory course
Humanities
and Fine Arts:
2
courses (6 semester credits), with one course selected from humanities and one course from the fine arts
Social
and Behavioral Sciences:
2
courses (6 semester credits), with courses selected from at least two disciplines
Additional College AS Degree Requirements
0-9
semester credit hours
Major Field & Elective Courses
10-27
semester credit hours
TOTAL
60-64
semester credit hoursSlide15Slide16
Example of a Cross-WalkSlide17
ISU Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters
CHE 140
General Chem
4
GECC
MAT 145
Calculus 1
4
ENG 101
Composition
3
Comp 1
ENG 101
BSC 197
Molecular Biology
4
15
Comp 2
Gen Ed 1
Speech
COM 110
CHE 141
General Chem II
4
MAT 146
Calculus II
4
Math
MAT 145
COM 110
Speech
3
For Lang 112
Foreign Language
4
15
Physical Science
CHE 140
Life Science
Gen Ed 2
CHE 230
Organic Chem I
3
Lab
CHE 140
CHE 231
Org Chem Lab
1
PHY 110
Physics for Science
4
SBS 1
Gen Ed 3
Gen Ed 1
3
SBS 2
Gen Ed 4
Gen Ed 2
3
14
SBS 3
?
CHE 232
Organic Chem II
3
HFA 1
?
CHE 233
Org Chem Lab
2
HFA 2
?
PHY 111
Physics for Science
4
HFA 3
?
Gen Ed 3
3
Gen Ed 4
3
15
Missing
12 hrs
59
Add'l
Wellness
2
61
Total combined
73Slide18
ISU Chemistry Major - first 4
semesters PROPOSED
CHE 140
General Chem
4
Proposed Gen Ed Component
MAT 145
Calculus 1
4
ENG 101
Composition
3
Comp 1
ENG 101
BSC 197
Molecular Biology
4
15
Comp 2
ENG 145
Speech
COM 110
CHE 141
General
Chem
II
4
MAT 146
Calculus II
4
Math 1
MAT 145
COM 110
Speech
3
Math 2
MAT 146
ENG 145
Composition II
3
14
Phys Science
CHE 140
CHE 230
Organic Chem I
3
Life Science
Gen Ed 1
CHE 231
Org Chem Lab
1
PLS
PHY 110
PHY 110
Physics for Science
4
Lab
CHE 140
Gen Ed 1
3
Gen Ed 2
3
14
SBS 1
Gen Ed 2
SBS 2
Gen Ed 3
CHE 232
Organic Chem II
3
CHE 233
Org Chem Lab
2
HFA 1
Gen Ed 4
PHY 111
Physics for Science
4
HFA 2
?
Gen Ed 3
3
Gen Ed 4
3
15
Missing
3 hrs
58
Add'l
Wellness
2
60
Total combined
63Slide19
ISU Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters
CHE 140
General Chem
4
GECC
MAT 145
Calculus 1
4
ENG 101
Composition
3
Comp 1
ENG 101
For
Lan
112
Foreign Language
4
15
Comp 2
Gen Ed 1
Speech
COM 110
CHE 141
General Chem II
4
MAT 146
Calculus II
4
Math
MAT 145
COM 110
Speech
3
Gen
Ed 1
3
14
Physical Science
CHE 140
Life Science
Gen Ed 2
CHE 230
Organic
Chem
I
3
Lab
CHE 140
CHE 231
Org Chem Lab
1
PHY 110
Physics for Science
4
SBS 1
Gen Ed 3
Gen Ed
2
3
SBS 2
Gen Ed 4
Gen Ed
3
3
14
SBS 3
?
CHE 232
Organic Chem II
3
HFA 1
?
CHE 233
Org Chem Lab
2
HFA 2
?
CHE 250
Fund.
Of
Inorg
.
Chem
3
HFA 3
?
CHE 251
Fund. Of
Inorg
.
Chem
Lab
1
PHY 111
Physics for Science
4
Missing
12 hrs
Gen Ed 4
3
16
59
Total combined
71Slide20
ISU Chemistry Major - first 4
semesters PROPOSED
CHE 140
General Chem
4
Proposed Gen Ed Component
MAT 145
Calculus 1
4
ENG 101
Composition
3
Comp 1
ENG 101
For
Lan
112
Foreign Language
4
15
Comp 2
Gen Ed 1
Speech
COM 110
CHE 141
General Chem II
4
MAT 146
Calculus II
4
Math
MAT 145
COM 110
Speech
3
Math 2
MAT 146
Gen
Ed 1
3
14
Physical Science
CHE 140
CHE 230
Organic
Chem
I
3
Life Science
Gen Ed 2
CHE 231
Org Chem Lab
1
PLS
PHY 110
PHY 110
Physics for Science
4
Lab
CHE 140
Gen Ed
2
3
Gen Ed
3
3
14
SBS 1
Gen Ed 3
SBS 2
Gen Ed 4
CHE 232
Organic Chem II
3
CHE 233
Org Chem Lab
2
HFA 1
?
CHE 250
Fund.
Of
Inorg
.
Chem
3
HFA 2
?
CHE 251
Fund. Of
Inorg
.
Chem
Lab
1
PHY 111
Physics for Science
4
Missing
6
hrs
Gen Ed 4
3
16
59
Total combined
65Slide21
Chicago
State
Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters
CHEM 155
General Chem
4
GECC
MATH 120
College
Algebra
3
ENG
127
Composition
I
3
Comp 1
ENG
127
CHEM101
Practical Skills in Sci.
1
Comp 2
ENG
128
Gen
Ed 1
3
14
Speech
Gen
Ed 1
CHEM 156
General Chem II
4
Math
MAT
141
MATH 121
Col. Algebra and Trig.
3
ENG
128
Composition II
3
CHE M160
Intro.
Chem. Professions
1
14
Physical Science
CHE
155
Gen
Ed 2
3
Life Science
Gen Ed 2
Lab
CHE
155
CHEM 250
Organic
Chem
I
4
MATH 141
Calculus I
4
SBS 1
Gen Ed 3
PHYS 211
Physics I with Calculus
4
SBS 2
Gen Ed 4
Gen Ed
3
3
15
SBS 3
?
CHEM 251
Organic Chem II
4
HFA 1
?
MATH 142
Calculus II
4
HFA 2
?
PHYS
222
Physics II with Calculus
4
HFA 3
?
Gen
Ed 4
3
15
Missing
12 hrs
58
Total combined
70Slide22
Chicago
State
Chemistry Major - first 4
semesters PROPOSED
CHEM 155
General Chem
4
Proposed Gen Ed Component
MATH 120
College
Algebra
3
ENG
127
Composition
I
3
Comp 1
ENG
127
CHEM101
Practical Skills in Sci.
1
Comp 2
ENG
128
Gen
Ed 1
3
14
Speech
Gen
Ed 1
CHEM 156
General Chem II
4
Math
MATH 141
MATH 121
Col. Algebra and Trig.
3
Math II
MATH 142
ENG
128
Composition II
3
CHE M160
Intro.
Chem. Professions
1
14
Physical Science
CHE
155
Gen
Ed 2
3
Life Science
Gen Ed 2
PLS
PHYS
211
CHEM 250
Organic
Chem
I
4
Lab
CHE
155
MATH 141
Calculus I
4
PHYS 211
Physics I with Calculus
4
SBS 1
Gen Ed 3
Gen Ed
3
3
15
SBS 2
Gen Ed 4
CHEM 251
Organic Chem II
4
HFA 1
?
MATH 142
Calculus II
4
HFA 2
?
PHYS
222
Physics II with Calculus
4
Gen
Ed 4
3
15
Missing
6
hrs
58
Total combined
64Slide23
EIU
Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters
CHM
1310G
General
Chem
I
3
GECC
CHM
1315G
General
Chem
Lab I
1
ENG 1001G
Composition
and Lang.
3
Comp 1
ENG
1001G
PHY 1351G
General Physics I
3
Comp 2
ENG
1002G
PHY 1352 G
General Physics I Lab
1
Speech
CMN
1310G
MAT
1441G
Calculus and Analytic Geo.
I
5
16
CHM
1410
General Chem.
II
3
Math
MAT
1441G
CHM 1415
General Chem. Lab II
1
ENG
1002G
Composition and Literature
3
PHY
1361
General Physics II
3
Physical Science
CHE
1310G
PHY
1362
General Physics II Lab
1
Life Science
Gen Ed
1
MAT 2442
Calculus and Analytic Geo II
5
16
Lab
CHE
1310G
CHM
2440
Organic
Chem
I
3
CHM
2445
Organic Chem. Lab I
1
SBS 1
Gen Ed
2
CHM
2730
Quantitative Analysis
3
SBS 2
Gen Ed
3
CHM
3500
Intro. To Chem. Research
1
SBS 3
Gen
Ed 4
CMN 1310G
Intro. To
Speech Com.
3
Gen Ed 1 and 2
6
17
CHM
2310
Inorganic Chemistry I
3
HFA 1
?
CHM
2840
Organic Chem. II
3
HFA 2
?
CHM
2845
Organic Chem.
Lab II
1
HFA 3
?
Gen
Ed 3 and 4
6
13
Missing
9
hrs
62
Total combined
71Slide24
EIU
Chemistry Major - first 4
semesters PROPOSED
CHM
1310G
General
Chem
I
3
Proposed Gen Ed Component
CHM
1315G
General
Chem
Lab I
1
ENG 1001G
Composition
and Lang.
3
Comp 1
ENG
1001G
PHY 1351G
General Physics I
3
Comp 2
ENG
1002G
PHY 1352 G
General Physics I Lab
1
Speech
CMN
1310G
MAT
1441G
Calculus and Analytic Geo.
I
5
16
CHM
1410
General Chem.
II
3
Math
MAT
1441G
CHM 1415
General Chem. Lab II
1
Math
II
MAT 2442
ENG
1002G
Composition and Literature
3
PHY
1361
General Physics II
3
Physical Science
CHE
1310G
PHY
1362
General Physics II Lab
1
Life Science
Gen Ed
1
MAT 2442
Calculus and Analytic Geo II
5
16
PLS
PHYS
1361
Lab
CHE
1310G
CHM
2440
Organic
Chem
I
3
CHM
2445
Organic Chem. Lab I
1
CHM
2730
Quantitative Analysis
3
SBS 1
Gen Ed
2
CHM
3500
Intro. To Chem. Research
1
SBS 2
Gen Ed
3
CMN 1310G
Intro. To
Speech Com.
3
Gen Ed 1 and 2
6
17
HFA 1
Gen
Ed 4
HFA 2
?
CHM
2310
Inorganic Chemistry I
3
CHM
2840
Organic Chem. II
3
CHM
2845
Organic Chem.
Lab II
1
Missing
3
hrs
Gen
Ed 3 and 4
6
13
Total combined
65
62Slide25
NIU
chemistry
Major - first 4 semesters
CHEM 210
General
Chem
I
3
GECC
CHEM
212
General
Chem
Lab I
1
MATH 229
Calculus I
4
Comp 1
ENG
103
ENGL
103
Rhet. &
Comp. I
3
Comp 2
ENG
104
COMS
100
Oral Communication
3
14
Speech
COMS
100
CHEM 211
General
Chem
II
3
Math
MATH
229
CHEM
213
General
Chem
Lab II
1
MATH
230
Calculus II
4
ENGL
104
Rhet. & Comp. II
3
Physical Science
CHEM
210
Gen
Ed 1
3
14
Life Science
Gen Ed
1
Lab
CHEM
212
CHEM
336
Organic
Chem
I
I
3
CHEM
338
Organic
Chem
Lab
2
SBS 1
Gen Ed
2
PHYS 253
Fundamentals of Physics I
4
SBS 2
Gen Ed
3
ENGL
250
Practical Writing
3
SBS 3
Gen
Ed 4
Gen Ed 2
3
15
HFA 1
?
CHEM
337
Organic
Chem
II
3
HFA 2
?
MATH 336
Differential Equations
3
HFA 3
?
PHYS
273
Fundamentals of Physics
II
4
Gen
Ed 3
3
Missing
9
hrs
Gen Ed 4
3
16
59
Total combined
68Slide26
NIU
chemistry
Major - first 4
semesters PROPOSED
CHEM 210
General
Chem
I
3
Proposed Gen Ed Component
CHEM
212
General
Chem
Lab I
1
MATH 229
Calculus I
4
Comp 1
ENG
103
ENGL
103
Rhet. &
Comp. I
3
Comp 2
ENG
104
COMS
100
Oral Communication
3
14
Speech
COMS
100
CHEM 211
General
Chem
II
3
Math
MATH
229
CHEM
213
General
Chem
Lab II
1
Math II
MATH 230
MATH
230
Calculus II
4
ENGL
104
Rhet. & Comp. II
3
Physical Science
CHEM
210
Gen
Ed 1
3
14
Life Science
Gen Ed
1
PLS
PHYS
253
CHEM
336
Organic
Chem
I
I
3
Lab
CHEM
212
CHEM
338
Organic
Chem
Lab
2
PHYS 253
Fundamentals of Physics I
4
SBS 1
Gen Ed
2
ENGL
250
Practical Writing
3
SBS 2
Gen Ed
3
Gen Ed 2
3
15
HFA 1
Gen Ed 4
CHEM
337
Organic
Chem
II
3
HFA 2
?
MATH 336
Differential Equations
3
PHYS
273
Fundamentals of Physics
II
4
Gen
Ed 3
3
Missing
3
hrs
Gen Ed 4
3
16
59
Total combined
62Slide27
SIUC Chemistry
Major - first 4 semesters
CHEM 200/201
General
Chem
5
GECC
BIOL
200a
General Biology
4
MATH
109
Trigonometry
3
Comp 1
ENGL
101
UCOL 101s
Scientific Inquiry
3
Comp 2
ENG
L 102
CI
199
Library Info
1
16
Speech
?
CHEM 210/211
General
Chem
II
5
Math
MAT
150
BIOL
200b
General Biology II
4
MATH
150
Calculus I
4
Physical Science
CHEM
200
ENGL
101
Composition
3
16
Life Science
BIOL
200a
Lab
CHEM
201
CHEM 330
Quantitative Analysis
5
CHEM 340/341
Organic Chemistry
5
SBS 1
PHIL
105
Math 250
Calculus II
4
SBS 2
?
ENGL 102
Composition II
3
17
SBS 3
?
CHEM 350/351
Biochemistry
5
HFA 1
?
CHEM 442/443
Organic
Chem. II
5
HFA 2
?
MATH 221
Linear Algebra
3
HFA 3
?
PHIL
105
Logic
3
16
Missing
18
hrs
65
Total combined
83Slide28
SIUC Chemistry
Major - first 4
semesters PROPOSED
CHEM 200/201
General
Chem
5
Proposed Gen Ed Component
BIOL
200a
General Biology
4
MATH
109
Trigonometry
3
Comp 1
ENGL
101
UCOL 101s
Scientific Inquiry
3
Comp 2
ENG
L 102
CI
199
Library Info
1
16
Speech
?
CHEM 210/211
General
Chem
II
5
Math
MAT
150
BIOL
200b
General Biology II
4
Math
II
MATH
250
MATH
150
Calculus I
4
ENGL
101
Composition
3
16
Physical Science
CHEM
200
Life Science
BIOL
200a
CHEM 330
Quantitative Analysis
5
PLS
BIOL
200b
CHEM 340/341
Organic Chemistry
5
Lab
CHEM
201
MATH 250
Calculus II
4
ENGL 102
Composition II
3
17
SBS 1
PHIL
105
SBS 2
?
CHEM 350/351
Biochemistry
5
CHEM 442/443
Organic
Chem. II
5
HFA 1
?
MATH 221
Linear Algebra
3
HFA 2
?
PHIL
105
Logic
3
16
Missing
12
hrs
65
Total combined
77Slide29
SIUE Chemistry
Major - first 4 semesters
CHEM
121a
General
Chemistry
4
GECC
CHEM 125a
General Chemistry Lab
1
ENG
101
Composition
3
Comp 1
ENG
101
MATH 150
Calculus I
5
Comp 2
ENG
102
SPC 105
Speech Communication
3
16
Speech
SPC
105
CHEM 121b
General
Chem
II
4
Math
MATH 150
CHEM
125b
General Chem. Lab
1
ENG 102
Composition
3
MATH 152
Calculus II
5
Physical Science
CHEM 121
PHIL
106
Critical Thinking
3
16
Life Science
Gen Ed
1
Lab
CHEM
125a
CHEM 331/335
Quant. Analytical Chem.
4
CHEM
241a
Organic Chemistry
3
SBS 1
PHIL
106
PHYS
151/151L
University Physics
5
SBS 2
Gen Ed
2
Gen Ed
1
3
15
SBS 3
?
CHEM 241b/245
Organic
Chem
II
5
HFA 1
?
STAT
244
Statistics
4
HFA 2
?
PHYS
152/152L
University Physics
5
HFA 3
?
Gen
Ed 2
3
17
Missing
12 hrs
64
Total combined
76Slide30
SIUE Chemistry
Major - first 4
semesters PROPOSED
CHEM
121a
General
Chemistry
4
Proposed Gen Ed Component
CHEM 125a
General Chemistry Lab
1
ENG
101
Composition
3
Comp 1
ENG
101
MATH 150
Calculus I
5
Comp 2
ENG
102
SPC 105
Speech Communication
3
16
Speech
SPC
105
CHEM 121b
General
Chem
II
4
Math
MATH 150
CHEM
125b
General Chem. Lab
1
Math II
MATH 152
ENG 102
Composition
3
MATH 152
Calculus II
5
Physical Science
CHEM 121
PHIL
106
Critical Thinking
3
16
Life Science
Gen Ed
1
PLS
PHYS 151
CHEM 331/335
Quant. Analytical Chem.
4
Lab
CHEM
125a
CHEM
241a
Organic Chemistry
3
PHYS
151/151L
University Physics
5
SBS 1
PHIL
106
Gen Ed
1
3
15
SBS 2
Gen Ed
2
CHEM 241b/245
Organic
Chem
II
5
HFA 1
?
STAT
244
Statistics
4
HFA 2
?
PHYS
152/152L
University Physics
5
Gen
Ed 2
3
17
Missing
6
hrs
64
Total combined
70Slide31
UIUC
Chemistry
Major - first 4 semesters
CHEM 202/203
Accelerated Chemistry
I
4
GECC
MATH 220
Calculus
4
RHET 105
Principles of Comp.
4
Comp 1
RHET
105
Gen Ed 1
3
15
Comp 2
Gen Ed 1
Speech
Gen
Ed 2
CHEM 204
Accelerated Chemistry
II
5
Math
MATH 220
MATH 231
Calculus II
3
PHYS 211
University Physics I
4
Gen Ed 2
3
Physical Science
CHE
202
Gen Ed 3
3
18
Life Science
Gen Ed
3
Lab
CHE
203
CHEM 236/237
Fund. Organic Chemistry I
6
MATH 241
Calculus III
4
SBS 1
Gen Ed
4
PHYS 212
University
Physics II
4
SBS 2
?
Gen Ed 4
3
17
SBS 3
?
CHEM 436
Organic Chem II
3
HFA 1
?
MATH 285
Intro.
To Differential Eq.
3
HFA 2
?
PHYS 214
University Physics III
2
HFA 3
?
Electives
9
17
Missing
15
hrs
67
Total combined
82
The electives may include general education courses or technical elective courses.Slide32
UIUC
Chemistry
Major - first 4
semesters PROPOSED
CHEM 202/203
Accelerated Chemistry
I
4
Proposed Gen Ed Component
MATH 220
Calculus
4
RHET 105
Principles of Comp.
4
Comp 1
RHET
105
Gen Ed 1
3
15
Comp 2
Gen Ed 1
Speech
Gen
Ed 2
CHEM 204
Accelerated Chemistry
II
5
Math
MATH 220
MATH 231
Calculus II
3
Math II
MATH 231
PHYS 211
University Physics I
4
Gen Ed 2
3
Physical Science
CHE
202
Gen Ed 3
3
18
Life Science
Gen Ed
3
PLS
PHYS 211
CHEM 236/237
Fund. Organic Chemistry I
6
Lab
CHE
203
MATH 241
Calculus III
4
PHYS 212
University
Physics II
4
SBS 1
Gen Ed
4
Gen Ed 4
3
17
SBS 2
?
CHEM 436
Organic Chem II
3
HFA 1
?
MATH 285
Intro.
To Differential Eq.
3
HFA 2
?
PHYS 214
University Physics III
2
Electives
9
17
Missing
9
hrs
67
Total combined
76
The electives may include general education courses or technical elective courses.Slide33
UIS Chemistry
Major - first 4 semesters
CHE
141
Principles of Chemistry
I
4
GECC
MAT
115
Calculus I
4
ENG
101
Composition
I
4
Comp 1
ENG
101
Gen
Ed 1
3
15
Comp 2
ENG
102
Speech
COM
101
CHE
142
Principles
of Chemistry II
4
Math
MAT
115
MATH 116
Calculus II
4
ENG
102
Composition II
4
Gen
Ed 2
3
15
Physical Science
CHE
141
Life Science
BIO 141
Lab
CHE
141
CHE 267/268
Organic
Chem
I
4
BIO
141
Unity of Living Org.
4
SBS 1
Gen Ed
1
ASP 201
Physics I
4
SBS 2
Gen Ed
2
Gen
Ed 3
3
15
SBS 3
Gen
Ed 3
CHE 269/271
Organic
Chem
II
4
HFA 1
Gen
Ed 4
ASP
202
Physics II
4
HFA 2
?
COM 112
Oral Communications
3
HFA 3
?
Gen
Ed 4
3
14
Missing
6
hrs
59
Total combined
65Slide34
UIS Chemistry
Major - first 4
semesters PROPOSED
CHE
141
Principles of Chemistry
I
4
Proposed Gen Ed Component
MAT
115
Calculus I
4
ENG
101
Composition
I
4
Comp 1
ENG
101
Gen
Ed 1
3
15
Comp 2
ENG
102
Speech
COM
101
CHE
142
Principles
of Chemistry II
4
Math
MAT
115
MAT 116
Calculus II
4
Math
II
MAT
116
ENG
102
Composition II
4
Gen
Ed 2
3
15
Physical Science
CHE
141
Life Science
BIO 141
PLS
ASP 201
CHE 267/268
Organic
Chem
I
4
Lab
CHE
141
BIO
141
Unity of Living Org.
4
ASP 201
Physics I
4
SBS 1
Gen Ed
1
Gen
Ed 3
3
15
SBS 2
Gen Ed
2
CHE 269/271
Organic
Chem
II
4
HFA 1
Gen
Ed 3
ASP
202
Physics II
4
HFA 2
Gen
Ed 4
COM 112
Oral Communications
3
Gen
Ed 4
3
14
Missing
0
hrs
59
Total combined
59Slide35
WIU
Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters
CHEM 201
Inorganic
Chemistry I
4
GECC
MATH 133
Calculus w/ Analytic Geo. I
4
ENG
180
College Writing I
4
Comp 1
ENG
180
Human Well Being
1-3
Comp 2
ENG
280
Gen
Ed 1
3
16-18
Speech
Gen
Ed 1
CHEM 202
Inorganic
Chemistry II
4
Math
MAT
133
MATH 134
Calculus w/ Analytic Geo. II
4
Human Well
Being
1-3
Gen Ed 2
3
Physical Science
CHE
201
Gen
Ed 3
3
15-17
Life Science
Gen Ed 2
Lab
CHE
201
CHEM 331
Organic Chemistry I
5
MATH 231
Calculus w/ Analytic Geo. II
I
3
SBS 1
Gen Ed 3
PHYS 211
University Physics I
4
SBS 2
Gen Ed 4
Gen Ed
4
3
15
SBS 3
?
CHEM 332
Organic Chemistry II
4
HFA 1
?
ENG 280
College Writing II
3
HFA 2
?
PHYS
213
University Physics III
4
HFA 3
?
Minor
elective
3
14
Missing
12 hrs
60-64
Total combined
72-76Slide36
WIU
Chemistry Major - first 4
semesters PROPOSED
CHEM 201
Inorganic
Chemistry I
4
Proposed Gen Ed Component
MATH 133
Calculus w/ Analytic Geo. I
4
ENG
180
College Writing I
4
Comp 1
ENG
180
Human Well Being
1-3
Comp 2
ENG
280
Gen
Ed 1
3
16-18
Speech
Gen
Ed 1
CHEM 202
Inorganic
Chemistry II
4
Math
MAT
133
MATH 134
Calculus w/ Analytic Geo. II
4
Math II
MATH 134
Human Well
Being
1-3
Gen Ed 2
3
Physical Science
CHE
201
Gen
Ed 3
3
15-17
Life Science
Gen Ed 2
PLS
PHYS 211
CHEM 331
Organic Chemistry I
5
Lab
CHE
201
MATH 231
Calculus w/ Analytic Geo. II
I
3
PHYS 211
University Physics I
4
SBS 1
Gen Ed 3
Gen Ed
4
3
15
SBS 2
Gen Ed 4
CHEM 332
Organic Chemistry II
4
HFA 1
?
ENG 280
College Writing II
3
HFA 2
?
PHYS
213
University Physics III
4
Minor
elective
3
14
Missing
6
hrs
60-64
Total combined
66-70Slide37
Comparison of Credit Hours: Current and Proposed AS Model
School
1
st
2 years
Current AS
Model
Gap
Proposed AS Model
Gap
Chicago State
58
70
12
64
6
EIU
62
71
9
65
3
ISU
59
71
12
65
6
NIU
59
68
9
62
3
SIUC
65
83
18
77
12
SIUE
64
76
12
70
6
UIUC
67
82
15
76
9
UIS
59
65
6
59
0
WIU
60-64
72-76
12
66-70
6Slide38
Frequently Asked Questions
Proposed revisions would benefit only those students whose goals include a baccalaureate degree in majors related to biology, chemistry, or physics, which is a much smaller population in comparison to the large number of students served by the current AS
degree.
The
intent is to provide students with a meaningful first two years of a baccalaureate program. The primary focus of any program of study should be to prepare the student for transfer. Therefore, if the student is best served by a program that fits the AS model, they should be pursuing the AS. If they are best served by pursuing the AA model, they should be pursing the AA model. There's no magic percentage that should be in one or the other model. Slide39
Frequently Asked Questions
The majority of students complete an AS or an AA degree. Very few complete the state’s specialized degrees (e.g. AFA, AES and AAT). The revisions to the newly proposed AS degree may create yet another specialized degree that perhaps few students will wish to complete.
The
AS is not a specialized degree. Rather, it is one of the two standard degrees most often used in preparation for transfer to a baccalaureate program. The proposed revisions align the AS model more closely with the course-taking pattern of native students in a BS degree.Slide40
Frequently Asked Questions
The revised degree would neither fall under the Compact Agreement nor include the entire IAI GECC.
This
is correct. Students who pursue the new AS degree may be required by the baccalaureate granting institution to complete the IAI GECC package after they transfer. This change will need to be thoroughly communicated to students as it is a dramatic shift. However, the reality is that native students at baccalaureate institutions routinely spread their general education coursework over all four years of their studies. Slide41
Frequently Asked Questions
A revised AS degree would dictate that the AA degree become the one size fits all for all of the other BS and BA degree related majors (business, elementary education, early childhood education, psychology, sociology, geology, English, math, economics, philosophy, history, special education…..).
Since the current AA and AS models are identical and are usually only distinguished at the institutional level by one course, it is clear that the choice between the AA and AS for a student preparing to transfer has little to do with the type of degree offered in their major field of study by the baccalaureate institution. Students will follow the plan of study that best prepares them for transfer. The choice of an AA or AS would depend upon which degree best fits their plan of study. It is also not necessary that a student intending to pursue a BS degree complete an AS degree. Everything depends on what courses they've taken, not what type of degree they have. Also, it is not clear why such fields of study as business, education, psychology, sociology, etc. would be associated with a science degree any more than they would be with an art degree. The absolute key is the courses the student takes in preparation for transfer.Slide42
Questions?