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Neuroskeptic

@Neuro_Skeptic

neuroskeptic@googlemail.com

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskepticSlide3

Beyond Blobs

The ‘imager’s fallacy’ and how to avoid itSlide4

Neuroscientists – Fishers of Blobs?Slide5

Neuroscientists – Fishers of Blobs?

A blob = a “result” that you can publish.

You should be able to interpret the meaning of each blob (in terms of localized function).

Blobs are the

first thing you should look for, and the

final goal of your analysisSlide6

What is a “Blob”?

An area activated by a task?Slide7

What is a “Blob”?

An area activated by a task?

An area where task-related activity fits a model?Slide8

What is a “Blob”?

An area activated by a task?

An area where task-related activity fits a model?

An area where task-related activity fits a model well enough to pass an arbitrary threshold.Slide9

Blobs Are Important

Blobs (thresholding) serve a very important purpose.

Whole-brain corrected blobs (FDR or FWE corrected) are evidence that ‘something is going on’.

To adopt a looser standard (e.g. p < 0.001 uncorrected) was the sin of the Dead Salmon (Bennet et al.)Slide10

Blobs Are Not Representative

Significantly activated voxels are not representative of activated areas.

This is the problem of voodoo correlations

aka

double dipping, circularity, non-independence

Vul et al. showed the error of treating significantly activated blobs (or, even worse, peaks within blobs) as representative of anything (they’re not). Especially when power (sample size) is low.Slide11

Imagine A Study...

We visit various towns and cities around The Netherlands

We sample 100 people per site (50 men and 50 women).

Each person completes a questionnaire: “BLoB” (Belgian Liking of Beer) scale.

We want to know:

Do Dutch men like drinking beer more or less than women?

If so, where in the Netherlands is this difference is seen?Slide12

Would this be the

first way

you’d inspect those results?Slide13

The Problem With Blobs

They conceal the raw data – you only see (effectively) p-values.Slide14

They conceal the raw data – you only see (effectively) p-values.

It imposes the arbitrary p < 0.05 cutoff and censors all nonsignificant points (even if they are p = 0.051).

The Problem With BlobsSlide15

They conceal the raw data – you only see (effectively) p-values.

It imposes the arbitrary p < 0.05 cutoff and censors all nonsignificant points (even if they are p = 0.051).

We know that blobs are significantly different to some null hypothesis, but we don't know whether each blob is

significantly more significant

than any non-blob point.

The Problem With BlobsSlide16

What About The Rest of the Brain?Slide17

With Enough Subjects, The Whole Brain is A Blob

Thyreau et al. (2012)

Neuroimage

N = 1326 fMRI study of a face processing task (emotional faces vs. grey circles) in the multicenter IMAGEN consortium.Slide18

So What?

t-scores / p-values are dependent on sample size. So in threshold on t-scores or p-scores, we are applying a threshold based on our sample size.

Sample size in fMRI studies is primarily limited by practical concerns ($$$).

Should the practical limitation of sample size determine which areas we call

activated

?Slide19

The Imager’s Fallacy

Richard Henson (2012)

Q J Exp Psychology

What can functional neuroimaging tell the experimental psychologist?“It is not sufficient to report two statistical maps, one for each condition versus a common baseline, and observe that they look different. This is a common mistake (“imager's fallacy”)… one should not eyeball differences in statistics, but explicitly test statistics of differences.”Slide20

New Visualizations Can Help

Blobs should not be the Alpha and the Omega of neuroimaging analysis. They should be one part of a comprehensive approach.

Look at the un-thresholded statistical parametric maps

alongside

the thresholded ones.

E.g. In FSL you can find these in the

stats/

directory of FEAT output for fMRI.Slide21

Post-Blob Visualization? Or not quite?

Allen, Erhardt, Calhoun (2012) Neuron

Data visualization in the neurosciences: overcoming the curse of dimensionalitySlide22

Visualizing “In Limbo” Areas

De Hollander et al. (2014)

PLoS ONE

An Antidote to the Imager's Fallacy, or How to Identify Brain Areas That Are in LimboSlide23

Visualizing “In Limbo” AreasSlide24

Thank you!

@Neuro_Skeptic

neuroskeptic@googlemail.com

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic

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