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Ends Means and Policy Science Philosophy Religion Monism Dualism Overview of the very Philosophical Chapter 3 Ends and Means A practical Dualism Means Ends The Presuppositions of Policy ID: 638987

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Slide1

Chapter 3 – Ecological Economics

Ends, Means, and Policy

Science - Philosophy - Religion

Monism - DualismSlide2

Overview of the

very Philosophical Chapter 3

Ends and Means – A practical DualismMeansEndsThe Presuppositions of PolicyDeterminism and RelativismThe Ends – Means SpectrumThree Strategies for integrating Ecology and EconomicsSlide3

Ends and Means – A Practical Dualism

There is no argument that both traditional economics and ecological economics are about using scarce means efficiently in the service of ends.

Where disagreement comes about is:What is scarce? & What is not scarce?What are appropriate mechanisms for allocating different means?What ends have what relative value (e.g. how do we rank ends)?Policy implies knowledge of both ends and means.We must be possibilists in that we believe different outcomes have some probability of occurring.

We must believe that some outcomes are better or worse than other

outocmes

.Slide4

Means (how we get things done?)

Ultimate Means

: Low-Entropy matter-energy. The common denominator of all usefulness.Our fundamental existence results from an entropic flow that is sustained by sunlight. (entropic dissipation) Question: Does ‘Information’ violate the 2nd Law?George Gilder – “Gone is the view of the thermodynamic world economy, … , the key fact of knowledge is that it is anti-entropic: it accumulates and compounds as it is used … the mind transcends every entropic trap and overthrows matter itself

.”

The human mind … burns by the power of a leaf

” – Loren

Eisley

No

phosphrous

, no thought

” – Frederick Soddy Q:

What is Gnosticism

?

Question

: Is ‘Waste’ really a resource?

Answer: “Do you believe in perpetual motion machines?”Slide5

Ends (What are we trying to achieve?)

Ultimate End

: From a physical / materialist perspective perhaps ‘Heat Death’. From a spiritual perspective ‘heaven’? From a traditional economic perspective ‘efficiency and/or economic growth’. From an Ecological Economic perspective ‘sustainable development’.EE perspective: We must have a dogmatic belief in objective value, an objective hierarchy of ends ordered with reference to some concept of the ultimate end, however dimly we may percieve it.Slide6

The Presuppositions of Policy

EE is committed to policy relevance. EE is not just a logical game for autistic academics like Paul Sutton.

Serious Policy discussions must presuppose:1) nondeterminism – that the world is not totally determined, that there is an element of freedom that offers us real alternatives2) nonnihilism – that there is a real criterion of value to guide our choices, however vaguely we may percieve

it.

If we believe purpose is an illusion foisted on us by our genes to makes us more

successful at reproduction

we should not engage in policy debates.

E.O. Wilson & Richard Dawkins vs. Wendell Berry & Paul EhrlichSlide7

Determinism and Relativism

“Policy students, including economists, implicitly assume that the world offers more than one possibility to choose from, and that some choices really are better than others. This is also true, of course, for ecological economists who, while continuing to take biology and ecology very seriously, must not fall into the metaphysical trap of determinism or nihilism that seem to have ensnared some in those disciplines (e.g. E.O Wilson & Richard Dawkins).

To be sure, not every conceivable alternative is a real alternative. Many things really are impossible. But the number of viable possibilities permitted by physical law and past history is seldom reduced to only one. Through our choices, value and purpose lure the physical world in one direction rather than another. Purpose is independently causative in the world.”Slide8

The Ends-Means Spectrum

Herman Daly (ends-means)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQJN2nkMN2Y Garrett Hardin (population & energy)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kc4aN2ZSTU&feature=related Dr. Albert Bartlett (exponential growth)http://

www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY&feature=related

Robert Costanza

(sustainable and desirable)

http://

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaAEfERGyO8

Slide9

3 Strategies for Integrating Ecology & Economics

Economy as a subsystem common – nature of the boundary the differenceSlide10

Economic Imperialism

(monistic vision #1)(

The economy is everything)The Macro economy is the system – it engulfs the ecosystem and is the ‘Whole’.Requires complete internalization of all external costs and benefits (the externality market failure)Requires ‘shadow prices’ of public goods to be determinedThe sum of all subjective individual preferences are taken to be the source of all valuation.Irony: Economic Imperialism becomes Central Planning (

read from text on

pg

51-52

)Slide11

Ecological Reductionism

(monistic vision #2)(the economy is nothing

)Axiom: Humans are not exempt from laws of nature.Human action is both explained by, and predicted from, those deterministic laws of nature.Policy does not matter in a deterministic world – it’s merely an illusion that some of us believe in.“Life's (aka the economy) but

a walking shadow, a poor player, that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more; it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”Slide12

The Steady-State Subsystem

(the economy and the human experiment is part of something larger)

“The scale of the human subsystem (economy) defined by the boundary with the ecosystem that sustains it has an optimum, and that the throughput by which the ecosystem maintains and replenished the economic subsystem much be ecologically sustainable. Once we have drawn this boundary in the appropriate place, we must further subdivide the economic subsystem into regions were the market is the most effective means of allocating resources, and regions where it inappropriate. These regions are to be determined by assessing the inherent nature and characteristics of different goods and services”Slide13

The Ultimate End

“The main idea of a steady-state economy is to maintain constant

stocks of wealth and people at levels that are sufficient for a long and good life. The throughput by which these stocks are maintained should be low rather than high, and always within the regenerative and absorptive capacities of the ecosystem. The system is therefore sustainable-it can continue for a long time. The path of progress in the steady state is no longer to get bigger, but to get better. This concept was a part of classical economics but unfortunately was more or less abandoned by NCE. More precisely, the terms stationary and steady state were redefined to refer not to constant population and capital stock, but to their proportional growth – a constant ratio between ever-growing stocks of people and things!”Slide14

Discussion Question & Big Ideas

“To ignore

our direct experience of good, evil, and freedom is considered antiempirical and against the deeper spirit of science” Do you agree or disagree?Big Ideas to Remember

Practical Dualism vs. Monism Determinism and Materialism

Presuppositions of Policy End-Means Spectrum

Ultimate Means Economic Imperialism

Ultimate End Ecological Reductionism

Information and Knowledge Steady-State Subsystem