Setting Realistic Expectations Gregory T Kavounas Esq MBA Principal Kavounas Patent Law Office PLLC CEO Patent Introductions Inc NAPP 18 th Annual Meeting amp Conference July 20 2014 ID: 569113
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Client Counseling: Setting Realistic Expectations
Gregory T. Kavounas, Esq., MBAPrincipal, Kavounas Patent Law Office, PLLC.CEO, Patent Introductions, Inc.
NAPP 18
th
Annual Meeting & Conference
July 20, 2014Slide2
Client InsightsAdvising an Independent Inventor Advising
a Small Business Client TopicsSlide3
Client InsightsSlide4
Trying to understand: the Client:the Client’s overall picture
the place of patents in the Client’s overall picture about the patent services that we could provide: the value of these services to the Clientthe cost of these services to the Client
Client
InsightsSlide5
Clients have: Resources, which
they do not want to part with, easilymoney, time, prioritized differently(Our services ask them to spend their resources now, for uncertain outcome later)
Needs
: they ask for our services because they need,
and
because our services
add value to them
Client InsightsSlide6
Client development stage
Idea Prototype Sell product
Client InsightsSlide7
Client development stage & patent services:
Idea Prototype Sell product Patenting … Clearance
Client InsightsSlide8
Client development stage & patent services:
Idea Prototype Sell product Patenting … Clearance
Typically an
…
Typically a
independent
business
i
nventor
Client InsightsSlide9
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk, they listen & ask questionsS
tep 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, andthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our servicesStep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
Client
Insights – EngagementSlide10
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk, they listen & ask questions
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, andthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our servicesS
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
Client
Insights – Engagement
we can help…Slide11
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk, they listen & ask questions
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, andthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our servicesS
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
Client
Insights – Engagement
…so they match
we can help…Slide12
Advising an Independent InventorSlide13
Client development stage & patent services:
Idea Prototype Sell product Patenting … Clearance
Typically an
…
Typically a
independent
business
i
nventor
earns money separately from idea
Owner
= Manager = Other
Employee = VC
Independent InventorSlide14
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk, they listen & ask questions
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, andthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our servicesS
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
EngagementSlide15
Joe Inventor calls you and asks you for an initial consultation for his “new idea”. He adds, “how much will the consultation cost?”
You know the consultation will last 60-90 minutes; Joe may, eventually, ask for a patent. So, you reply:A) “Nothing, this first consultation is free”B) Quote a fee about
$50-
$200
C) (Other)
Flash Poll – Our Consultation Slide16
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk, they listen & ask questionsS
tep 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, andthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our servicesStep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
EngagementSlide17
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk, they listen & ask questions
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, andthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our servicesS
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
Engagement
do they remember all we said? Slide18
After our Consultation, it is best to write Joe a follow-up letter:summarize aspects of what you advised,
including options, their deadlines, plus answers to specific questions he asked include a non-engagement notification
EngagementSlide19
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk, they listen & ask questions
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, andthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our servicesS
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
EngagementSlide20
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk, they listen & ask questions
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, andthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our servicesS
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
Engagement
do we remember all that was said? Slide21
For advising Independent Inventors:
Suggestion of this PresentationSlide22
For advising Independent Inventors: create your own Initial Consultation Form; has talking points with blanks
Suggestion of this PresentationSlide23
For advising Independent Inventors: create your own Initial Consultation Form; has talking points with blanks
practice presenting out of it; anduse it during the Consultation.
Suggestion of this PresentationSlide24
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk pointing to it
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, andthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our services
S
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
EngagementSlide25
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk pointing to it, checking off;
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, andthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our services
S
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
EngagementSlide26
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk pointing to it, checking off;
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, andthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our services
S
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
Engagement
Less chance to forget item(s) Slide27
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk pointing to it, checking off; sign, copy & give!
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultationthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our services
S
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
EngagementSlide28
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk pointing to it, checking off; sign, copy & give!
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultationthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our services
S
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
Engagement
Our follow-up letter – all done
Slide29
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk pointing to it, checking off; sign, copy & give!
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation while looking at itthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our services
S
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
EngagementSlide30
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk pointing to it, checking off; sign, copy & give!
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation while looking at itthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our services
S
tep 3. They Engage Our Services (
ready
)
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
EngagementSlide31
The form I use is today’s handoutavailable as on-line material
Read it at home, in peacepersonalize it with your information,practice delivering itNow we skim together the
basic parts …
The Initial Consultation FormSlide32
… capturing Inventor’s initial data … Initial Consultation Form … Slide33
… while talking, check off; ask if questions …Initial Consultation Form …Slide34
… get the facts; take notes on the form as they talk
Initial Consultation Form …Slide35
… determine bar date … cover other topics … Initial Consultation Form …Slide36
… determine bar date … cover other topics … Initial Consultation Form …Slide37
… create estimates of time and cost (1/2) …Initial Consultation Form …
enter bar date from aboveSlide38
… create estimates of time and cost (2/2) …Initial Consultation Form …Slide39
Initial Consultation Form …Slide40
Initial Consultation Form …Slide41
… also the non-engagement clause …
Initial Consultation Form …Slide42
Sign, date, make & keep copy, give original
Initial Consultation Form …Slide43
Advising a Small Business ClientSlide44
Client development stage & patent services:
Idea Prototype Sell product Patenting … Clearance
Typically an
…
Typically a
independent
business
i
nventor
makes/plans to make money by selling Product
Owner = Manager = Other Employee = VC
Small Business
Client
?
?
?Slide45
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk, they listen & ask questions
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, andthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our servicesS
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
EngagementSlide46
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk, they listen & ask questions
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, andthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our servicesS
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
Engagement
BUT WAIT!
FIRST ACCOUNT FOR CLIENT’S STEP 0
!Slide47
Client decides to ask for our Consultation.
Small business client is different: they know: some
patent basics
that they should be “doing also patents
”, perhaps starting with a consultation
once the listen to Patent Practitioner, they will have to interact (report invention, read drafts, pay)
but it is hard to focus on patents because:
the
benefit
of patents is in the long term, but
they are preoccupied with
the short term
they have no processes to follow systematically
(developing processes requires changing how you work)
Client’s Step 0:Slide48
Have you heard of a startup (if a client do not name them!) that went to market without patenting their product, and was copied to extinction? Answer:
A) NeverB) I have heard of just oneC) I have heard of more than one …
Flash Poll – Our Consultation Slide49
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk, they listen & ask questions
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, andthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our servicesS
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
EngagementSlide50
When it does happen, we speak to them about their needs: Basic: patenting
Since they have product and rely on revenues, they also have more advanced needs:clearance searchingand the realistic expectation that it is rarely perfect
Our Consultation …Slide51
When it does happen, we speak to them about their needs: Basic: patenting
Since they have product and rely on revenues, they also have more advanced needs:clearance searchingand the realistic expectation that it is rarely perfect
if
clearance
searching
finds adverse
patents, search further, in the hope of invalidating
and the
realistic expectation
that
invalidation is not guaranteed
Our Consultation …Slide52
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk, they listen & ask questions
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, andthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our servicesS
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
EngagementSlide53
Who was the consultation with? CEO? VP?
CFO?Legal / Risk Manager?CTO?Project Manager?Engineer?
All must
cooperate / be on
board, so as to get the patent work done
Whoever we talked to
will discusses
with the rest.
(Will they convince?)
Their Contemplation …Slide54
Sometimes they decide to not do the patent work. We know because:we hear nothing back – they do not engage & live with Outcomes, some bad but preventable
we even heard pushback during our Consultation, e.g.:1) “Why patent something we have not built yet?”2)
“Can I just file a provisional”?
3
) “Why pay for a
search,
if its results are not guaranteed?
4) “What if the owner
of the
adverse patent
never
discovers us?”
… and such statements reflect lack of good advice, but it takes us a long time to explain why that is so
Their Contemplation
…Slide55
Use this book:
Suggestion of this PresentationSlide56
Use this book: Patent Ready®
Introductory Book for Executives, Managers, Engineers & OthersDue out in September 2014
NAPP Sunday attendees will receive free copy
Fair Disclosure by Patent Introductions, Inc.
Suggestion of this PresentationSlide57
Audiences & messages: Part I: The Why and the What of patents (high level)(for VCs, CEOs, Executives & Project Managers)
Parts II, III, IV: The What (low level) and the How of patents(for Project Managers & Engineers)… in single language
… more than 60 custom diagrams (examples follow)
with icons consistent from one diagram
to
another
presenting frequent messages in visual form
About Patent Ready® bookSlide58
Patent practitioner’s friend (and advertisement): removes need for much of our low-end consultation, which might not happen anyway. After the consultation, the Client can:
read on their own, in their own time, regardless of departmentunderstand their needstells them what they: can expect (effort)
cannot expect (our usual disclaimers)
warns that patent work is legal work
perils of not using a
patent practitioner
When
personalized with practitioner’s brand
, the book refers the Client back to the practitioner who gave it to them.
About Patent Ready® (cont’d)Slide59
Does not enter Patent Practitioner’s domain: “this book does
not give legal advice”repeatedly defers: “for more, refer to your patent practitioner”warns that there is no right way to write a patent application, because of different strategic considerations every time
does not teach how to proofread patent application
(beyond the basics spelled out in the Patent Rules)
About Patent Ready® (cont’d)Slide60
Invest one Saturday to read it(basics covered today)
Personalize it with your brand, so it advertises your practiceDevelop Scripts for your frequent Messages (will see samples today)Add it to your Consultations
… more particularly …
Suggestion of this PresentationSlide61
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, andthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our servicesS
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
EngagementSlide62
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk pointing to diagrams
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, andthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our services
S
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
EngagementSlide63
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk pointing to diagrams, then give them the book
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, andthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our services
S
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
EngagementSlide64
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk pointing to diagrams, then give them the book
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, andthey form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our services,
S
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
EngagementSlide65
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk pointing to diagrams, then give them the book
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, and the book, and
they form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our services,
S
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
EngagementSlide66
Step 1. Our Consultation - Advisingwe talk pointing to diagrams, then give them the book
Step 2. Their Contemplationthey consider Our Consultation, and the book, and
they form expectations accordingly, about outcomes from our services,
realistically, also for what you did not discuss
S
tep 3. They Engage Our Services
S
tep 4. They Live with Outcomes
EngagementSlide67
Sample Messages and Scripts
Patent Ready ® bookSlide68
Here is FIG. 6A; see title …
Sample Script (from drawing)
(c) 2014 Patent Intro-
ductions
, Inc.Slide69
Message: “To get patents, ideas must be reported”
Sample Script (from drawing)
(c) 2014 Patent Intro-
ductions
, Inc.Slide70
Message: “To get patents, ideas must be reported”
Script: “Without reporting an idea, there cannot be patenting; do you have a process for reporting?”
Sample Script (from drawing)
(c) 2014 Patent Intro-
ductions
, Inc.Slide71
Message: “
Expect that getting a patent is not guaranteed”Script: “Some patent applications
fail; maybe you want a patentability search”
Sample Script (from drawing)
(c) 2014 Patent Intro-
ductions
, Inc.Slide72
Message: “
Expect that getting a patent will not be immediate”Script: “See how long it takes from when you apply till issuance”
Sample Script (from drawing)
(c) 2014 Patent Intro-
ductions
, Inc.Slide73
Message: “Patent Fast!
Script: In a patent race for the same invention, whoever filed first wins – even if the other side invented
first, decided to develop first, etc.”
Sample ScriptSlide74
Message: “Patent Fast!
Script: In a patent race for the same invention, whoever filed first wins – even if the other side invented
first, decided to develop first, etc.”
Sample Script (from drawing)
(c) 2014 Patent Intro-
ductions
, Inc.Slide75
Message
& Script: “Patent application is pending initially confidentially”
Sample Script (from drawing)
(c) 2014 Patent Intro-
ductions
, Inc.Slide76
This time period is ~18 months? More? Less? Do we have a name for it?
… among ourselves …
(c) 2014 Patent Intro-
ductions
, Inc.Slide77
This time period is ~18 months? More? Less? Do we have a name for it?
Let’s call it: Publication Delay (new term)
… among ourselves …
(c) 2014 Patent Intro-
ductions
, Inc.Slide78
Message: “Realistically, patent searches cannot be perfect”
Script: “Sometimes patent searches cannot be 100% conclusive – if you factor in NPL & Publication Delay”
Sample ScriptSlide79
Message: “Realistically, patent searches cannot be perfect”
Script: “Sometimes patent searches cannot be 100% conclusive – if you factor in NPL & Publication Delay”
Sample Script (from drawing)
(c) 2014 Patent Intro-
ductions
, Inc.Slide80
Message: “File
now to protect what you are building”Script: For a product you want to start building now …”
Sample ScriptSlide81
Message: “File
now to protect what you are building”Script: For a product you want to start building now …”
Sample Script (from drawing)
(c) 2014 Patent Intro-
ductions
, Inc.Slide82
Message: “File
now to protect what you are building”Script: For a product you want to start building now, the risk includes a) past …”
Sample Script (from drawing)
(c) 2014 Patent Intro-
ductions
, Inc.Slide83
Message: “File
now to protect what you are building”Script: For a product you want to start building now, the risk includes a) past and b) future, which continues to be renewed
…”
Sample Script (from drawing)
(c) 2014 Patent Intro-
ductions
, Inc.Slide84
Script: “… unless you cut off the future risk by patenting now – win that patent race”
Sample Script (from drawing)
(c) 2014 Patent Intro-
ductions
, Inc.Slide85
Message: “An adverse patent can be revised” (new term)
Sample Script (from drawing)
(c) 2014 Patent Intro-
ductions
, Inc.Slide86
Message for business people: “Patents can affect revenue”
Script: “Patent business risks affect the Net Present Value (NPV) calculation for a new product”
Sample ScriptSlide87
Message for business people: “Patents can affect revenue”
Script: “Patent business risks affect the Net Present Value (NPV) calculation for a new product”
Sample Script (from drawing)
(c) 2014 Patent Intro-
ductions
, Inc.Slide88
Invest one Saturday to read
Suggestion of this PresentationSlide89
Invest one Saturday to readPersonalize it with your brand:
Suggestion of this PresentationSlide90
Invest one Saturday to readPersonalize it with your
brand:On the cover:
Suggestion of this PresentationSlide91
Invest one Saturday to readPersonalize it with your
brand:On the cover: add 1” x 4” label:“Given to you by
: [MY NAME]”
Suggestion of this Presentation
Given to you by: Slide92
Invest one Saturday to readPersonalize it with your
brand:On the cover: add 1” x 4” label:“Given to you by
: [MY NAME]”
Inside early page:
Suggestion of this Presentation
Given to you by: Slide93
Invest one Saturday to readPersonalize it with your
brand:On the cover: add 1” x 4” label:“Given to you by
: [MY NAME]”
Inside early page:
where it says:
“Contact info of your
outside attorney
”
Suggestion of this Presentation
Given to you by: Slide94
Invest one Saturday to readPersonalize it with your
brand:On the cover: add 1” x 4” label:“Given to you by
: [MY NAME]”
Inside early page:
where it says:
“Contact info of your outside attorney”
Stamp your firm’s name
Suggestion of this Presentation
Given to you by: Slide95
Questions? Thank you
Gregory T. KavounasPrincipal KAVOUNAS PATENT LAW OFFICE, PLLC425 / 643-2174
CEO
PATENT INTRODUCTIONS, INC.