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By Baron Lazar Esquire Outline Brief Background Current Structure amp Functions Timeline of Reforms Current Reform Proposals Where are we now Analysis Questions Introductory thoughts ID: 548324

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Slide1

The House of Lords

By Baron Lazar, Esquire Slide2

Outline

Brief BackgroundCurrent Structure & FunctionsTimeline of ReformsCurrent Reform Proposals

Where are we now?

Analysis QuestionsSlide3

Introductory thoughts…

The “best club in London”“The cure for admiring

the House of Lords

is

to go and look at

it.” Walter Bagehot,

1867

The

House of Lords, an illusion to which I have never been able to subscribe - responsibility without power, the prerogative of the eunuch throughout the ages

.’’ – Tom Stoppard

Lords Reform goes

to the heart of the debate about democracy: how do we decide

the

will of the

people?

The

House of Lords is an institution with a long and illustrious past, but a rather more uncertain

futureSlide4

Unreformed Structure of the Lords

755 membersHereditary Peers – Title inherited (dying breed)

Life Peers – Appointed by the Queen on advice of PM. Usually due to distinguished service in politics or society.

Law Lords – Senior Judges (no longer)

Lords Spiritual – Senior bishops from the Church of EnglandSlide5
Slide6
Slide7

HM Government

     -

Conservative Party

 (208)

     

-

Liberal Democrats

 (89)

HM Most Loyal Opposition

     -

Labour

Party

 (216)

Other Opposition

     

UKIP

 (3)

     

Democratic Unionist Party

 (2)

     

Plaid

Cymru

 (2)

     

Ulster Unionist Party

 (2)

     

Green

 (1)

     

Ind

Lab

 (1)

     

Ind

L Dem

 (1)

     

Lab

Ind

 (1)

     

L Dem

Ind

 (1)

Other

     

Crossbenchers

 (183)

     

Non-affiliated

(21)

     

Lords Spiritual

 (25)Slide8

Functions of the Lords

Initiate Legislation, except money billsCan delay legislation for up to a year (financial legislation for only a month)Provide Expertise – Titles bestowed for achievement

Questioning - Regular Question Times for government ministers in the Lords

Scrutinize – a “second pair of eyes”. Lords makes around 2,000 amendments a year to legislation, nearly all of which are accepted

Debate controversial issues - death penalty, gay rights, etc.

Used to have Law Lords. Not since 2009.

No veto powerSlide9

Function: to slow or stymie ‘Elective

Dictatorship’

Term

was coined by Lord

Hailsham

(aka

Quintin

Hogg, 1907-2011) in

a public lecture.

Once

in power an elected government is nearly always able to get its legislation passed by Parliament.

Westminster

system means that a government will fall if defeated on a major vote of confidence. In consequence, party whips are able to ensure that the government

’s legislative proposals are supported at every stage in the House of Commons.PM and Cabinet effectively decide what will become law and Parliament nearly always rubber stamps the bills that come before it. Slide10

Comparisons with Commons

Differences from the

HoC

Similarities with HoC

Unelected

Second Chamber with secondary role

Not paid

Includes

bishops

& archbishops

Scrutinises

Debates

Select committees

Whips

Speaker (called Lord Chancellor in

HoL

)

Checks

govSlide11

Timeline of Lords Reform

1911: Parliament Act; the first major restrictions on the Lord’s

power – Commons can pass money bills without Lords’ advice or consent.

1949: Parliament Act; limits the delaying powers

of

Lords

to 1

year

1958: Women peers arrive

1970s-80s

: Labour party policy

advocates

abolition of

Lords

1992: Labour abandons abolition in favor of reform1999: Blair abolishes all but 92 hereditary

peers

2000:

Wakeham

Report recommends largely appointed chamber

2001: White Paper

2003:

Queen’s speech

advocated end to hereditary

peers

2007: White

Paper

2011: Lord Reform Bill published and debated Slide12

The Wakeham Report

Lord

Wakeham

(Conservative MP in Hof C, retired as Lord in 1994, Director of Enron, now Chancellor of Brunel

University)

A

sked by

Labour government to

head

Royal Commission to investigate possible reforms to

Lords

.

Report made

public in January 2000. 132 wide-ranging proposals. Its main recommendations were…Slide13

The Wakeham Report, 2000

Largely appointed House of

450-550

members

independent commission to appoint members - removing PM patronage

Did not recommend an elected chamber

15

year terms

30% of members should be

women

F

air representation of

ethnic minorities

Broader religious representationSmall Number of regionally elected membersSlide14

2001 White Paper

White Papers allow

the Government an opportunity to gather feedback before it formally presents the policies as a Bill

.

A credible and effective second chamber is

vital to the health of Britain's democracy

...

Our

mission is to equip the British people with a Parliament and a constitution fit for the 21st

century.”

Lords

would remain subject to the

pre-eminence of the

Commons Removal of 92 hereditary peers from Lords.Greater representation of women and ethnic minorities.120 directly elected members to represent regions.120 independent members appointed by the Appointments Commission.Large numbers of members appointed by political parties.2003, Lords and Commons debated the report.

Results were…Slide15

Results of Parliamentary Votes 4 February 2003

Option

Lords

Commons

Elected

Appointed

For

Against

For

Against

0%

100%

335

110

245

323

20%

80%

39

375

40%

60%

60

358

50%

50%

84

322––60%40%9131725331680%20%93338281284100%0%106329272289Abolition–-172390

After this series of votes Slide16

2007 White Paper

New White Paper following discussions of a cross-party working group convened by Jack Straw, Leader of

Commons

Elected

members +

members appointed

by a new Statutory Appointments

Commission

Any elected element would be elected under a regional list

system

All elections and appointments would take place on a

5-year

cycle

, with one third of the House admitted at each intake to a fixed 15-year non-renewable termProhibits Lords from seeking election to Commons before a minimum amount of time had elapsed after the expiry of their term as LordGradual transition, with no life peers forced to retire, but with the possibility of a redundancy package should they choose to do so.Slide17
Slide18

Where are we now?

2010 Lib-Dem Manifesto demanded a full elected Lords. Conservative Manifesto demanded a mainly elected Lords.

120 elected members

30 appointed members

up to 21

bishops

Detailed

proposals for Lords reform including a draft House of Lords Reform Bill were published on 17 May 2011.

These include…Slide19

Where are we now?

300-member hybrid house, of which

80% are elected

.

20% would be appointed, and reserve space would be included for some Church of England bishops.

Single

non-renewable term of 15 years

.

Elections

to the reformed Lords should take place at the same time as elections to the

Commons

.

Elected Members should be elected using

proportional

representation.Independent Members will be appointed by the Queen after being suggested by the Prime Minister acting on advice of an Appointments Commission.The current powers of the House of Lords would not change and the Commons shall retain its status as the primary House of Parliament.Slide20
Slide21

Analysis Questions

What does the British electorate think?Overall, people support the House of Lords being replaced by an elected

chamber:

44

% would prefer an mostly elected

chamber

32

% a mixed elected and appointed

chamber

11

% a chamber that was mostly

appointed

Asked specifically about the proposal to make the Lords 80%

elected:

31% said this did not go far enough and the Lords should be entirely elected34% that the balance was about right10% that there should be a smaller elected element11% that there should be no elected element 52% of people said that while it was good idea, it should not be a priority at the moment given Britain’s other problems. 20% said the Lords works reasonably well and should be left alone.Asked if there should be a referendum on the future of the Lords 55% of people said yes, 26% no…and how much should this matter?Slide22

Analysis Questions

Does this tradition warrant preservation? If it ain’t broke…

If both Houses are wholly or largely elected, does Commons lose it’s primacy?

Balance of Power?

Gridlock of two elected Houses?

Shouldn’t

expertise and achievement count for

something

in politics?

How big should the Lords be? 150? 300? 450? Does it matter?Slide23

Analysis Questions

How should elected members be elected? PR? FPP SMDP? Party List?What role should partisanship play in new Lords?

Does Lords have a natural and immutable Conservative bias?

Lords repeatedly voted against Labour

Gov

- defeated 97 times in 2001

Why not just abolish the second House? Unicameral legislatures can work just fine (half of the world’s states are unicameral, as are all the devolved governments in the UK).Slide24

Analysis Questions

What is most democratic and what weight should the implications on democracy bear?"Electing the second chamber is not self-evidently the democratic option – by dividing accountability it can undermine the capacity of the people to hold government to account (since policies may emerge for which it is not directly responsible) and can sweep away the very benefits that the present system delivers.?

--Lord Norton – March 2012

“We in the House of Lords are never in touch with public opinion. That makes us a

civilised

body.”

-- Oscar Wilde, 

A Woman of No Importance