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Long Term Care Covid19Commission MtgFero International InconThursday November 26 202077 King Street West Suite 2020Toronto Ontario M5K 1A1neesonsreportingcom 4164137755Long Term Care Covid19 Commis ID: 872185

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1 Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. 
Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 40neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1 REPORTER 2 3 I, JANET BELMA, CSR, Certified 4Shorthand Reporter, certify: 5 6 That the foregoing proceedings were 7taken before me at the time and place therein set 8forth; 910 That all remarks made at the time11were recorded stenographically by me and were12thereafter transcribed;1314 That the foregoing is a true and15correct transcript of my shorthand notes so taken.161718 Dated this 27th day of November, 2020.19202122 ___________________________________23 NEESONS, A VERITEXT COMPANY24 PER: JANET BELMA, CSR25 CHARTERED SHORTHAND REPORTER Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on Thursday, November 26, 2020 77 King Street West, Suite 2020 Toronto, Ontario M5K 1A1 neesonsreporting.com | 416.413.7755 Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 1neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 MEETING OF THE LONG-TERM CARE COVID-19 COMMISSION 8 910111213 --------14--- Held via Zoom, with all participants attending15remotely, on the 26th day of November, 2020,169:00 a.m. to 9:40 a.m.17

2 --------1819BEFORE:2021The H
--------1819BEFORE:2021The Honourable Frank N. Marrocco, Lead Commissioner22Angela Coke, Commissioner23Dr. Jack Kitts, Commissioner Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 2neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1PRESENTERS: 2Sabrina Fiorellino, Chief Executive Officer, 3Fero International Inc. 4Alex Scopacasa, Chief Operating Officer 5Fero International Inc. 6 7PARTICIPANTS: 8 9Alison Drummond, Assistant Deputy Minister,10Long-Term Care Commission Secretariat.11Ida Bianchi, Counsel, Long-Term Care Commission12Secretariat13Sanjay Bahal, Team Lead for Operations, LTCC14Derek Lett, Policy Director, Long-Term Care15Commission Secretariat16Adriana Diaz Choconta, Senior Policy Analyst for17the Operations Branch, Long-Term Care COVID-1918Commission Secretariat19John Callaghan, Gowling LLP2021ALSO PRESENT:2223Janet Belma, Stenographer/Transcriptionist Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 3neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1 -- Upon commencing at 9:00 a.m. 2 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR): 3Well, our -- I guess we 4 Alex, is it? 5 ALEX SCOPACASA: Yes. 6 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR): 7All right. So are you -- are you the person -- are 8you the person we 9 ALE

3 X SCOPACASA: It10myself, correct.11
X SCOPACASA: It10myself, correct.11 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):12How do you do? Good morning.13 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Good morning.14 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):15I16There17 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: Good morning.18 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):19-- and Commissioner Angela Coke. Janet is our20court reporter, so she21and there22 So I think you know, generally, the23issues that we24back at what happened in Wave 1 as far as long-term25care homes are concerned and more importantly, Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 4neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1looking forward to see if there are recommendations 2that we should be making to try to prevent a 3reoccurrence of that. We made one interim report. 4We may make and probably will make a second one 5before the end of the year. 6 So we 7one of the issues that presents itself is how 8you -- how you deal -- how you deal with homes that 9get into this kind of a situation, what are your10opportunities to create a safe space on a temporary11basis where you can remove people, and so on. So12that13 We tend to ask questions as we go14along, if that15be on -- you may be on mute.16 ALEX SCOPACASA: Oh, we17hear

4 us?18 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARR
us?18 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):19Yeah, I can hear you now. So, you know, I think20we21 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Perfect. Yeah,22our preference is also for you to interrupt us as23much as possible so it can be more of a dialogue.24Just a note, just so we don25we Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 5neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1and masking, but we 2that 3present together in the same room. 4 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR): 5Okay. I assumed that, actually. 6 SABRINA FIORELLINO: So just a bit of 7background before we start, my name 8Sabrina Fiorellino. I 9background, I10several years on Bay Street in mergers and11acquisitions, but a serial entrepreneur. My12previous company was in construction. I13a number of different fields.14 But when the pandemic broke and turned15the world upside down, I decided, with a group of16partners, that we had to do something to help. So17it touched my family and continues to touch my18family in a particular way. My mom is a double19lung transplant recipient who is immunocompromised.20Hospital, obviously, shut down transplant, and she21couldn22understood if she was at the wrong place at the23wrong time, she wouldn24transplant.25 My brother Long Term Care

5 Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero Internatio
Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 6neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1sister-in-law 2baby at home, and, obviously, we -- family can 3see each other under those circumstances. 4 My grandfather also, unfortunately, 5passed during the first wave in hospital. It was 6his first hospital admission, and I couldn 7with him. And obviously, that was quite difficult 8for me. 9 I10then we can get into our slide deck and, you know,11happy to field questions along the way.12 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):13That14 ALEX SCOPACASA: Hi, everyone. My name15is Alex Scopacasa. I16International. I have a background in project17management and operations managements. I actually18worked for Sabrina for a number of years and19started -- started with FERO with her as well.20 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Thanks. So I21just going to go through the first few slides22quickly. I think you understand the challenges23even more than we do. We know the Canadian health24system, both long-term care and acute care, is25struggling to keep up with increasing changing Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 7neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1demands. Obviously, the pandemic has tested the 2limits of the system, and we unders

6 tand there 3been heroic efforts made by,
tand there 3been heroic efforts made by, you know, frontline 4workers in acute care and long-term care, but we 5just don 6possible care when faced with this kind of crisis. 7 And with limited beds and multiple 8outbreaks in LTC homes and other congregate living 9settings, you know, we tried to develop a solution10to quickly and safely increase capacity where it11critically needed to protect frontline workers, and12above all, obviously, to ensure residents can13safely and effectively receive the care that they14need.15 So what we do is, instead of trying to16fit residents or patients into existing17infrastructure that just doesn18current circumstances, we create flexible19infrastructure that can be flexible around20residents21 We created by hard shell, scalable22mobile units, and we have breakthrough technology23to support long-term care and acute care.24 We -- our hard-shell units have25everything needed for high quality and comfortable Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 8neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1resident care, and we help to mitigate 2cross-contamination within congregate living during 3an outbreak so residents can be effectively cared 4for while keeping frontline workers and fellow 5residents safe. 6 The

7 other thing that we 7constantly collabo
other thing that we 7constantly collaborate with the frontlines to 8develop new solutions and to adapt our existing 9offerings to meet their needs. So we10number of meetings with acute-care providers and11long-term care providers and associations to ensure12that our solution is what they want because they13the frontlines, and they know better than we know.14 Our units themselves, so this is -- we15create them out of shipping containers. We can16create custom enclosures, but because shipping17containers are the most cost efficient, we start18with that. They19rapidly deployable. The units are pressurized,20so -- and they21and bed shortages to deal with outbreaks. I think22some of the countries that have been most23successful in dealing with LTC outbreaks have24decanted their homes, and so we25a solution that allows for rapid decanting where Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 9neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1and when needed. 2 The units can serve as isolation to 3accommodate infections where there 4constraints and that design requirements of the 5existing infrastructure limit the ability of 6operators to separate infected residents from those 7who are well. For some residents, this can 8eliminate the need to transfer the residents to 9hospit

8 al. Units, obviously, can be customized
al. Units, obviously, can be customized for10a large variety of uses, and we can create11full-scale nursing stations, communications12capabilities, and more.13 And our goal is always to work with14long-term care operators as well as acute-care hubs15and government to produce tailored solutions to16challenges in relation to both physical space and17staffing.18 ALEX SCOPACASA: So a little bit about19our units and the capacity of our units: Each20proposed unit would provide approximately 60021square feet to each -- to two residents, and they22actually are separated from one another. The units23can be scaled up or down to a fully connected24solutions to ensure residents are isolated safely25and comfortably. So what we -- Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 10neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR): 2Excuse me, Alex. Is each unit -- how many -- like, 3one person per unit, or how does that work? 4 ALEX SCOPACASA: The units actually 5interconnect using our proprietary technology to 6provide a larger living space. So you 7putting one resident in one unit. We 8interconnecting the units to provide a large living 9space.10 SABRINA FIORELLINO: I think -- I think11what you were getting at

9 , Frank, is do we put12multiple resident
, Frank, is do we put12multiple residents in the same unit, and the answer13is no. Each unit has their -- each resident has14their own space, and the way our system is created15is that each unit has their own HVAC, which we16get into, but I17raised it.18 Our HVAC does up to 30 air exchange an19hour, so we exceed CDC requirements, and there20cross-flow of air between any of the resident21rooms. That was extremely important for us to22ensure that if -- you know, we try to decrease23viral load as much as possible and ensure that even24if there25frontline workers continue to be safe and the air Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 11neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1doesn 2residents sicker. 3 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR): 4M-hm. 5 ALEX SCOPACASA: Yeah, so going from 6that point there, just continuing on, unless 7there 8 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: Well, let 9me -- let me see if I understand. So I think the10picture there has -- looks like three units --11three separate units joined by one walkway. And in12each of those units, each of those units is 60013square feet, and you have two people in a unit; is14that right?15 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Oh, I will --16maybe what -- I17slide deck so I can show you, and then we

10 18back up.19 Okay. So here20
18back up.19 Okay. So here20picture you can see. So on the right, you see a21hallway in between. On the right side of the22hallway, there23 Each of the resident rooms is 30024square feet, so 600 square feet together.25 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: Yeah. Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 12neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Each resident room 2has a bedroom and a living room and a washroom. 3However, the air between those resident rooms 4doesn 5rooms has its own HVAC. Each of those rooms 6achieves 30 air exchanges an hour. Each of those 7rooms is independently temperature controlled from 8minus 50 to plus 50 and dehumidified. 9 ALEX SCOPACASA: Yeah, so these -- this10room here, there11these units. The HVAC units are all serviced from12the outside, so you have your electrical room and13your HVAC room serviced from the exterior, and each14of these resident rooms has its own HVAC and15electrical room that gets serviced (phonetic) from16the outside so there17between each room.18 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Is that -- is that19more helpful?20 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: There21patients in a square there?22 SABRINA FIORELLINO: That23 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: Y

11 eah.24 SABRINA FIORELLINO: B
eah.24 SABRINA FIORELLINO: But all25independent air handlings per each room. Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 13neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1 ALEX SCOPACASA: Yeah. 2 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: And is that 3square the 600 square foot unit? 4 SABRINA FIORELLINO: No. Each resident 5room is 300 square feet, so this would be -- in 6this iteration, you have, I believe, 40 feet by 40 7feet. 8 ALEX SCOPACASA: So you have 1, 2, 3, 94, 5 containers connected together. There10that is a completely open concept here, so there11no dividing wall between here. There12dividing wall to separate the actual residents.13 SABRINA FIORELLINO: They14real room, as an example. It15foot, like we mentioned, with its own HVAC.16 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: Okay. As we17go forward, are we talking about just the two beds18and the HVAC? Is that the unit -- is that the unit19you20to be talking about the whole square?21 SABRINA FIORELLINO: No. So we can --22I can show you if we go down. So this is what a23solution could like look when you put units24together to create a full, let25solution. So the idea would be to -- for example, Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 1

12 1/26/2020 14neesonsreporting.com416.413.
1/26/2020 14neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1we partner with the University Health Network to 2test our units to ensure they 3both Toronto General and Toronto Western, both on 4the acute-care side and the long-term care side. 5 And so the idea is, for example, the 6UHN has 15 long-term care homes. We would find a 7central location to put down our hub where any 8COVID-positive resident from any one of those homes 9could be decanted into one of our spaces, and then10we11staff the units to ensure there12site, a physician, and then appropriate nurse --13nursing staff. We have our own staffing solution14as well, but understand that we need to work with15both acute care and long-term care to make it work16effectively.17 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):18So when -- so when you put -- and I don19get ahead, you know, if you want me to wait with20the question, just say so.21 SABRINA FIORELLINO: No. Go ahead.22 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):23But -- so when you put the unit down, one unit, it24will create two spaces that function as two25separate rooms would function in a hospital? Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 15neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1 SABRINA FIORELLINO: That 2Completely separate, complete --

13 the air is 3completely separate. 4
the air is 3completely separate. 4 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR): 5Yeah. 6 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Yeah, you got it. 7 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR): 8All right. 9 SABRINA FIORELLINO: You got it.10 COMMISSIONER ANGELA COKE: So just --11sorry, just to confirm what I12the bedroom, and then there13area; is that what you said?14 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Yeah.15 COMMISSIONER ANGELA COKE: Okay.16 SABRINA FIORELLINO: We can create it17any way required. If it18required, we can create that and put patient lifts19in all of the bedrooms and whatever equipment is20required.21 If we require bedroom and living room22and washroom, we can create that. If we require23nursing station or supply rooms, clean and soiled24utility rooms, those are easy for us. It25like Lego blocks because they Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 16neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1handling for each unit. So the beauty is we can 2also scale up and scale down where outbreaks exist, 3so we can receive a phone call and say we need four 4resident rooms tomorrow; and then, you know, ten 5days later, we need another six resident rooms 6because the outbreak is getting worse, we can 7deliver those and conne

14 ct them, and then we can 8scale down in
ct them, and then we can 8scale down in the same manner. 9 COMMISSIONER ANGELA COKE: So, sorry,10just one other thing: You mentioned that you also11have a staffing solution. Is that an HR supply12agency or something that goes with it?13 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Yes, that14but I think we would still need to work with, you15know, the LTC provider, the acute care hubs,16potentially a MEST team to make sure that there17proper management, there18and our recommendation would always be to have19dedicated staff servicing this unit also to ensure20that there21staffing.22 COMMISSIONER ANGELA COKE: Okay. Thank23you.24 SABRINA FIORELLINO: You25 ALEX SCOPACASA: I Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 17neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1up to where we were just to continue off there. 2 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR): 3Sure. 4 ALEX SCOPACASA: So as we were saying, 5so each resident will be isolated from one another, 6and then residents will actually be able to 7communicate with their families through 8sophisticated video-conferencing software or in 9person through large transition privacy glass10windows while the patients -- while the residents11or patients are being safely isolated.12 So yo

15 u can13iteration, but in each resident r
u can13iteration, but in each resident room, there will be14a large transitional privacy glass window that will15allow for in-person visitation. Once you clear the16glass up, you can see the person on the other side,17and then we18visit because not only is our air HEPA-filtered19coming in, but also, it20HEPA-filtered as well, so no visitors are getting21sick walking by the units from the air.22 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):23So you filter the air as it comes in, and you24filter the air as it goes out.25 ALEX SCOPACASA: Yes. Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 18neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1 SABRINA FIORELLINO: That 2 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR): 3Okay. 4 ALEX SCOPACASA: And then we had 5mentioned part of our proprietary technology is 6that each room has two independent rooms that can 7be pressure controlled separately. So in a 8hospital setting, you can have one room acting as a 9negative -- in negative pressure, the other room10beside it acting in positive pressure so you can be11doing a procedure on one side and then have an ICU12bed on the other side in -- or any long-term care13home, you can have both units acting in negative14pressure.15 So this is a unique technology that16a

16 vailable through our proprietary technol
vailable through our proprietary technology that17not available in Ontario health facilities right18now, only in our facilities.19 So the units can be cooled and heated20to accommodate Canadian weather fluctuations, as we21mentioned, plus 50 to minus 50, and it also22includes dehumidification, so we23the Canadian extreme weather fluctuations. And I24mentioned that the air is filtered, incoming and25exhausted, and we can achieve up to 30 air Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 19neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1exchanges per hour in our units. 2 On the interior of our units, we have 3all medical-grade finishes, no seams, no drywall, 4and making the units very easy to clean and 5sterilize in the hospital settings or in long-term 6care settings. So we don 7wood. All our wall is green-grade powder-coated 8aluminum to allow for high flash points of over 92,000 degrees to making it very fire retardant, and10obviously, all these seams -- there11the rooms to allow for infection control.12 SABRINA FIORELLINO: So -- in what we13always propose to deliver in a long-term care14setting is resident rooms that, obviously, don15look like this but look like real room rooms, like16bedrooms and living rooms and are just as17comfortable as an existing h

17 ome would be.18 But we would
ome would be.18 But we would propose to deliver also19some treatment rooms where more aggressive20treatment could be provided to avoid having a21resident go to hospital where, you know, they could22do vitals every hour and provide some additional23level of care if they could avoid the hospital24visit.25 So in these type of rooms that, like I Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 20neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1mentioned, UHN 2medical gas lines available. We have 3hospital-grade headwall units. Throughout our 4whole system, all of our electrical outlets operate 5on independent circuit breakers so you can 6overload any outlet. 7 We also have a dedicated UPS backup 8system to ensure that equipment 9any external power failures. As Alex mentioned, we10have a wireless communication system for residents11and frontline workers to communicate with resident12families and remote medical professional access to13residents by camera and monitoring capability which14assists when there15 So you --16 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):17Does that -- you can also -- you could also do that18not just where you needed physicians but with any19kind of staff.20 SABRINA FIORELLINO: That21Yeah, they could --22 C

18 OMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):23Cou
OMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):23Could it be organized in such a way that if, say,24my father was in one of those units, that -- and I25was at home on the Internet, that I could, sort of, Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 21neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1take a look and make sure that he was okay and then 2go off and -- 3 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Yeah, we 4a secure login for family that would be verified 5ahead of time that would allow family access with 6resident consent or if a resident is unable to give 7that consent so long as there was -- you had the 8Power of Attorney for personal care -- 9 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):10Right.11 SABRINA FIORELLINO: -- for example,12gave consent, then we could allow secure access to13that.14 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):15Okay. So then in terms of checking on the welfare16of the family member or the loved one, you could do17it yourself randomly as long as you had an Internet18connection.19 SABRINA FIORELLINO: That20Yeah, that21mentioned the units can be scaled up and scaled22down. If we have a fleet of units ready to deploy,23they can be operational within hours. They require24minimum-type site preparation, so -- and we --25we Long Term Care Covid-19 Co

19 mmission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on
mmission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 22neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1there 2to get sick, that they can be connected and up and 3running very quickly and easily. And we can 4accommodate a broad -- a broad variety of medical 5needs such as entry units, hallways, anterooms, 6nursing station, pharmacies, medical gas, pour 7generation units, utility rooms, restrooms. 8 We can, obviously, rapidly deploy 9anywhere in Ontario with truck, train, or plane,10and like I mentioned, we require minimum time to11install. Our units are all prefabricated. We12created the collaborations with some of the biggest13medical device suppliers in the world, and we don14take a markup on any of those supplies. It15a pass-through for us, but it16turnkey solution to ensure that we can streamline17the process.18 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):19Can I just interrupt you? And sorry to keep doing20this.21 SABRINA FIORELLINO: No problem.22 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):23But I want to make sure I understand this. If you24have the container --25 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Yeah. Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 23neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR): 2-- then you said you ca

20 n deploy virtually 3immediately. What d
n deploy virtually 3immediately. What does that mean in terms of if 4somebody called you this morning at 9 o 5had the container available, how quickly can you -- 6can this happen? 7 SABRINA FIORELLINO: So 24 to 48 hours. 8Obviously, if it 9solution, it takes some amount of time. It10literally us loading it onto a truck or multiple11trucks; driving it to site; taking the crane;12putting it down on site; connecting them together13which takes less than 15 minutes; and then14connecting either to generator power or site power,15to municipal water or our own septic system,16above-ground septic system; and then, if required,17connecting to mini-bulk gas systems, so it18actually meant to be rapid, as rapid as you can get19for a modular solution.20 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):21Is it -- is it difficult -- is the supply of22containers difficult?23 SABRINA FIORELLINO: So there are some24difficulties worldwide in container supply, but25we Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 24neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1containers. Our issue is that we need to be able 2to build them ahead of time. You know, at full 3ramp up, we ourselves can build 60 rooms a month. 4We 5Ontario who can get us up over a hundred rooms a 6month, but we do need ramp-

21 up time to get there. 7 And s
up time to get there. 7 And so until we 8ahead of time, it takes some time for us to build 9before we deploy. Once they10deploy immediately.11 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):12We had here the President of the Hospital in13Windsor, and he was explaining how they took an14auditorium and created a hundred rooms. So if you15were going to -- if you were using your system, and16you wanted to create a hundred rooms, can you --17can you give me an idea of how long that would --18that would take? Assume you had the land --19 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Right.20 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):21-- next to the -- next to the hospital. There22land there. How long are we talking here?23 SABRINA FIORELLINO: So from not having24built any units, I would say three months, three25months to get down the hundred rooms and have them Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 25neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1operational. 2 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR): 3And if you have units? 4 SABRINA FIORELLINO: I would say less 5than a week. 6 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR): 7Okay. So that would be 50. You would need to have 8had 50 units? 9 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Correct.10 COMM

22 ISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):11All ri
ISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):11All right. And do you always have an inventory of12units, or no?13 SABRINA FIORELLINO: No. So one of the14things, you know, we15government to stockpile the units, so for them to16fund a government stockpile that we can build and17maintain and deploy for them if and when required.18 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):19Okay. Thank you.20 Commissioner Kitts.21 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: For a hundred22beds, you23 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Correct. Correct.24 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: I gather you25don Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 26neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1 SABRINA FIORELLINO: We do. We do go 2vertical. The only limitation to vertical stacking 3is that we would have to put in an elevator, and so 4it would slow down our install time. So our 5preference is to stay horizontal, but if we need to 6go vertical, we can. We just need TSSA to approve 7the elevator system. 8 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: I 9trying to imagine how big a hundred beds would be10all on the one level. Is there -- how big is that?11 SABRINA FIORELLINO: So every, let12say every unit, which is two rooms, is a footprint13of 8 by -- oh, sorry -- 40 by 16, so t

23 hen you can14extrapolate from there.15
hen you can14extrapolate from there.15 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: Okay.16 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):17How -- well, let me -- maybe you can extrapolate18from there.19 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Okay.20 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):21But I would be here all day --22 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: That sounds23like --24 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):25 -- attempting to extrapolate from there. How big Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 27neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1an area would you need if you were going to -- if 2you were going to build a hundred -- if you were 3going to create a hundred beds? And let 4you were going to do them side by side rather than 5vertically. How big an area are you talking about? 6 SABRINA FIORELLINO: So what we can 7do -- so 600 square feet times a hundred beds, 8right? 9 ALEX SCOPACASA: So depending on,10obviously, the facility.11 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):1260,000 square feet, then?13 SABRINA FIORELLINO: That would be1460,000 square feet plus if you require nursing15stations or communal washrooms, et cetera, so16that17 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):18You would hit 60, or you would be in

24 excess of 60?19 SABRINA FIORE
excess of 60?19 SABRINA FIORELLINO: We20of 60.21 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):22So a hundred? Seventy-five?23 SABRINA FIORELLINO: I would say less24than a hundred. I would say 70, 75.25 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR): Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 28neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1So that 2have to have is this 75,000 square feet. 3 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Right. 4 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR): 5And then I could get -- how -- all right. I 6ask -- okay. Fine. I got it. 7 SABRINA FIORELLINO: All right. Yeah. 8We can -- we can essentially do it, for example, on 9a football field or something that10that11example. They have 15 homes. We find a football12field that1315 homes, and we would put it there, and that would14be fine for us.15 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):16All right. All right. I actually was thinking of17football fields. A lot of schools have them and so18on. Anyway, okay.19 SABRINA FIORELLINO: So we -- I think20we had mentioned that, you know, we21we22equipment so that we can deliver that, things like23patient lifts, et cetera, that are required in the24units. We25operational at any location, you know, of Long Term Care

25 Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero Internatio
Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 29neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1government or an LTC provider can offer. 2 Again, I think we mentioned this, that 3we 4needs of each home or each hub, and we can connect 5to existing facilities if required or be completely 6standalone. So if there 7that just needs a few beds, we can create a hallway 8module to connect to that facility and add a few 9beds. But if we need a full decanting solution, we10can do that too. I think we showed you these11renders.12 ALEX SCOPACASA: So, yeah, to add to13the point of the question of square footage and14everything, we can -- we can expand these units in15any direction either vertically, horizontally, out16to the side, any footprint that is required,17anywhere from a 20-bed to a 40-bed and depending on18the facilities that are required as well. If19they20soiled utility rooms, we would be able to, you21know, deploy, let22different areas to act as the general hub for a23certain amount of facilities to isolate.24 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: So are you25saying that for functionality, because I can Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 30neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1imagine a hundred bed horizontal, that the walk 2from one end to the

26 other would be terrific, so you 3said yo
other would be terrific, so you 3said you -- you 4that what you 5for these? 6 SABRINA FIORELLINO: So the one you see 7here is 36 beds. 8 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: Okay. 9 SABRINA FIORELLINO: And so what we can10do -- and we would never, sort of, have a situation11where we12build down here, and there would be hallways coming13through this way and up here again, so it14long. It15with hallways going vertical and horizontal, so16you17from all the way from one end to another.18 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: That sounds19good. Thank you.20 SABRINA FIORELLINO: You21So FERO, obviously, can22know, we need, sort of, collaboration from23government and otherwise. I think we believe that24a well-thought-out emergency strategy is required25now. We believe COVID-19 will be with us for some Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 31neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1time and that long-term care homes require 2assistance even post-pandemic due to bed shortages 3in the entire health system. 4 We believe, especially, that a 5collaborative approach is required between 6long-term care and acute care, and we believe that 7this idea requires socialization to ensure all 8parties are on board to work collaboratively and 9create uni

27 form standards across areas of overlap10
form standards across areas of overlap10between acute care and long-term care.11 From a safe infrastructure perspective,12FERO is able to act as a hub and move13COVID-positive residents out of homes as well as14take pressure off emergency departments. So FERO15can provide units that treat residents that require16additional medical support where vitals can be17taken every hour and where aggressive treatment can18be provided without sending residents to hospitals.19 And in that manner, we can act as both20an input and an output, so we can act to decant21residents22hospitals into FERO units before they23return to their homes.24 As we mentioned before, we25provide some staffing, but understand that a Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 32neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1collaborative approach is required which ensures 2strong managers are present. We, obviously, 3recommend that existing homes assign designated 4staff including physicians and nurse practitioners 5to work in the FERO hubs. We can work with 6long-term care homes and acute-care hubs. We can 7assist with providing clinical managers and 8logistics. 9 We10so we11on our conversations. And we can ramp up and ramp12down, so as fast as we can add beds, we can remove13t

28 hem and move them to different sites if
hem and move them to different sites if required.14We also believe that MEST or the Mobile Emergency15Support Team could be moved into a FERO unit as the16MEST teams include managers.17 Overall, we understand that there18difficulty in filling management roles in the19sector but that this endeavour requires strong20decisive leadership to make strategic and21just-in-time decisions proactively. And we also22believe Ministry of Health and Ministry of23Long-Term Care need to work collaboratively and24closely with one another and with long-term care25and acute-care providers for any solution, Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 33neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1including FERO 2 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR): 3So how mobile -- how mobile is it? Let 4you created this 36-bed facility in Kingston, only 5they don 6people mistakenly thought there would be, and there 7aren 8so somebody wants to move the whole thing. How 9long would something -- how long does that take? I10appreciate it depends on the distance, but how long11does that take?12 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Less than a week13for sure.14 ALEX SCOPACASA: So it15of us disconnecting the units and then putting them16on a truck and shipping them out to the next site.17

29 So the great thing about our units is
So the great thing about our units is,18like you said, if someone made a mistake and, you19know, they don20they would, they can decrease on a bed-by-bed21basis, so rather than putting up fixed22infrastructure like a tent, let23tent, and then that -- that site requires an24extreme amount of onsite trades to be present in25order to put up that tent and that infrastructure, Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 34neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1to take that -- to set that up and take that down 2requires several weeks to mobilize and demobilize; 3whereas our solution requires, you know, such -- 4much less time to mobilize and demobilize. 5 SABRINA FIORELLINO: I think the other 6thing is we don 7example, if there 8residents that require care, we can leave five 9units and move the rest somewhere else, so it10very flexible in that manner.11 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):12Yeah. So you could -- in the example I gave, you13could leave a few units in Kingston just in case if14that were the consideration, move the rest of them15there because it16 SABRINA FIORELLINO: That17 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):18Okay. I know that this is kind of an odd, awkward19question, but is -- can you give me a sense of what20the cost of

30 what you21they decided they wanted to do
what you21they decided they wanted to do this?22 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Sure. So our23rooms range from a hundred thousand to 300,000,24300,000 being the most sophisticated ICU room that25runs oxygen suction and medical gas lines, Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 35neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1et cetera. You know, our visitation pods, 2obviously, are much less expensive than that if, 3you know, it was only a visitation pod that was 4required, but we 5 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR): 6Yeah, I was thinking more of a situation where you 7had residents in a long-term care facility who 8tested positive, and you wanted to remove them 9to -- if -- in the interests of containing the10spread of the disease, so that kind of a unit.11What -- where is that on the range that you were12talking?13 SABRINA FIORELLINO: That14the hundred-thousand-dollar range for sure. It15also depends on if negative pressure is required,16if you require that pressurisation or not. If the17pressurisation is required, it18the hundred-thousand-dollar mark. If not, we19can -- we can stay closer to the20hundred-thousand-dollar mark per room for sure.21 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):22Commissioner Kitts.23 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: I

31 s that a24hundred thousand per one pod w
s that a24hundred thousand per one pod which has two beds?25 SABRINA FIORELLINO: It Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 36neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1it 2 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: Okay. So 3200,000 per pod, and do you -- do you -- do you 4have -- the purchaser buys it. Do you lease them? 5 SABRINA FIORELLINO: We do lease them 6absolutely, sell, lease, finance, et cetera. 7 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: And what 8about other people in your market that are not 9healthcare? Do these have a use -- like, you say10they11beds.12 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Yes.13 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: They could be14something else. Do you have a market for that as15well?16 ALEX SCOPACASA: We could provide -- so17we -- not only does our infrastructure do hospital18beds and provide facilities for long-term care, but19as a stockpile, if government were to purchase20them, we could repurpose them for infrastructure in21remote communities or Indigenous communities where22the infrastructure is lacking. We can also use23them for, you know --24 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Social housing.25 ALEX SCOPACASA: -- social housing, Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 37

32 neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1school
neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1schools, correctional facilities, and the list goes 2on. And I can let Sabrina talk more about that. 3 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Yeah, the idea was 4always that COVID was limited, and so we understand 5that the need is now and there may not be a need, 6let 7repurposed in a number of manners including to deal 8with ALC bed shortages, temporary shortages for LTC 9beds, also to deal with surgical backlog to10repurpose for infrastructure in Indigenous or11remote communities for social housing for the12homeless, et cetera, so -- or they could be13stockpiled by government like a civilian stockpile14similar to a military stockpile where they could be15deployed for future pandemics or natural disasters16or mass casualty events.17 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: That18excellent. Thank you.19 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):20The -- have you had an opportunity to demonstrate21in a long-term care facility or situation the --22how efficient this is?23 SABRINA FIORELLINO: So not yet. Like,24I had mentioned, we25University Health Network both on the acute-care Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 38neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1side and the long-term care side. You know, we 2requested funding from governme

33 nt so that we could 3deploy the units to
nt so that we could 3deploy the units to UHN so they can be used in a 4clinical setting on the long-term care side and the 5acute-care side so we can demonstrate how 6effectively they work. 7 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR): 8And in terms of how effective they can work, UHN is 9obviously satisfied that they would fulfill a need10for UHN, or they would never have entered into the11agreement with you in the first place.12 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Yeah, they13us a written report that said that the units are14suitable for use. They15government or are in the process of sending that to16government, so, yeah.17 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):18Okay. Well, is there -- I don19any further questions. I -- on behalf of us all, I20thank you for this because this is a, sort of --21this is a concrete example of -- in the context in22which we23to -- or a potential solution to a problem that we24have been confronting all the way along both in25terms of a need to deal with people who are COVID Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 39neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 1positive, and also there 2the shortage of the -- a number of beds and an 3anticipated shortage -- an anticipated worsening 4situation over the next few years as the baby-boom 5generation

34 gets older. 6 So this is ver
gets older. 6 So this is very informative from our 7point of view, and thank you both very much for a 8very helpful presentation. 9 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Thank you,10Commissioner Marrocco, and to the rest of the11Commissioners as well for giving us the opportunity12to speak with you today.13 ALEX SCOPACASA: Thank you, guys.14 COMMISSIONER JACK KITTS: Thank you.15 COMMISSIONER ANGELA COKE: Thank you.16 COMMISSIONER FRANK MARROCCO (CHAIR):17Good-bye now.18 SABRINA FIORELLINO: Bye-bye.19 -- Adjourned at 9:40 a.m.  WORD INDEX 1  24  815  6  13  28:11, 1316  132  82,000  920  3200,000  1, 32020  15  1820-bed  1724  726th  1527th  183  830  18  6  18:25300  23  5,14300,000  23,2430-bed  2135-bed  836  736-bed  8  33:44  940  6  1340-bed  17  30:348  75  950  8  21  25:7, 8, 2260  3  18,2060,000  12, 14600  20  12,24  3  770  2475  2475,000  28  139  49:00  16  19:40  16  19a.m  16  1  39:19ability  5above-ground  23:16absolutely  6access  12  21:5, 12accommodate  9:3  20  4  29:3achieve  25achieves  6acquisitions  5:11act  22  31:12, 19, 20acting  8, 10,13actual  12acute  24  4,23  15  15  31:6, 10acute-care  10  9:14  4  6,25  25  5adapt  8add  8, 12  32:12additional  22  31:16address  16Adjourned  19admission  6Adriana  16ag

35 ency  12aggressive  19:19  17agreement  
ency  12aggressive  19:19  17agreement  38:11ahead  19, 21  21:5  2, 8air  18, 20, 25  12:3, 6, 16, 25  15:2, 25  18,19, 21, 23, 24  18:24, 25ALC  8Alex  4  4, 5,9  16  9, 14,15  18  2, 4  11:5  9  1,8  25  4,25  4  9  27:9  12  33:14  16, 25  39:13Alison  9allow  15  19:8, 11  5, 12allows  25aluminum  8amount  9  29:23  24anaesthetist  5:25Analyst  16Angela  22  3:19  10, 15  16:9, 22  15anterooms  5anticipated  3Anyway  18appointments  5:21appreciate  10approach  5  32:1appropriate  14:12approve  6approximately  9:20area  13  27:1, 5areas  22  31:9assign  3assist  7assistance  2Assistant  9assists  14associations  8:11Assume  18  27:3  3assumed  5attempting  26:25attending  14Attorney  8auditorium  24:14available  16,17  2  5  28:9avoid  20, 23awkward  18baby  2baby-boom  4back  24  11:18  25background  7,9  16backlog  9backup  7Bahal  13based  10basis  11  33:21Bay  10beauty  1bed  21  12  30:1  2  8bed-by-bed  33:20bedroom  2  15:12, 21bedrooms  15:17, 19  16beds  7  17  25:22  9  27:3, 7  7, 9  30:7  12  35:24  11, 18  37:9  2behalf  19believe  6  30:23, 25  4,6  14, 22Belma  23  40:3, 24best  5better  13Bianchi  11big  9, 10, 25  27:5biggest  12bit  6  18  35:17blocks  25board  8Branch  17breakers  5breakthrough  7:22broad  4broke  14brother  25bubble  1, 2build  2, 3, 7,8  16  2  30:11, 12built  9, 24buy

36 s  4Bye-bye  18call  3Callaghan  19calle
s  4Bye-bye  18call  3Callaghan  19called  4camera  13Canadian  23  18:20, 23capabilities  12capability  13capacity  5, 10  8:20  19CARE  7  10,11, 14, 17  25  6:24  4, 6, 13,23  1, 11  14  14:4, 6, 15  16:15  12  19:6, 13, 23  21:8  1, 6, 10  32:6, 23, 24  34:8  7  36:18  21  38:1, 4cared  3case  13cases  5, 19casualty  16CDC  19central  7  28:10, 12centre  10CEO  8  15certain  23CERTIFICATE  40:1Certified  3certify  4Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 1neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 cetera  15  28:23  1  36:6  12CHAIR  2, 6,11, 14, 18  18  5:4  12  1  11:3  17, 22  15:4, 7  2, 22  18:2  16, 22  21:9, 14  18,22  1, 20  24:11, 20  2,6, 10, 18  16,20, 24  11, 17,21, 25  4, 15  33:2  11, 17  35:5, 21  19  38:7, 17  16challenges  22  9:16changing  25  7:20CHARTERED  40:25checking  15Chief  2, 4Choconta  16circuit  5circumstances  6:3  18civilian  13clean  23  19:4  19clear  15clinical  7  38:4closely  24closer  13, 19Coke  22  19  15:10, 15  9,22  15collaborate  7collaboration  30:22collaborations  22:12collaborative  31:5  1collaboratively  31:8  23comes  23comfortable  7:25  17comfortably  9:25coming  19  30:12commencing  3:1COMMISSION  1:7  10, 11, 15,18Commissioner  1:21, 22, 23  2,6, 11, 14, 17, 18,19  18  4  6:12  1  3,8, 25  20, 23  13:2, 16  17,22  4, 7, 10,15 

37 9, 22  17:2, 22  2  20:16, 22  9,14  18,
9, 22  17:2, 22  2  20:16, 22  9,14  18, 22  23:1, 20  11,20  2, 6, 10,18, 20, 21, 24  26:8, 15, 16, 20,22, 24  11, 17,21, 25  4, 15  29:24  8, 18  33:2  11, 17  35:5, 21, 22, 23  36:2, 7, 13  37:17, 19  7,17  10, 14, 15,16Commissioners  3:15  11communal  15communicate  17:7  11communication  20:10communications  9:11communities  36:21  11company  12  40:23complete  2completely  13:10  2, 3  29:5concept  10concerned  25concrete  21confirm  11confronting  38:24congregate  8  8:2connect  7  29:4, 8connected  23  13:9  2connecting  23:12, 14, 17connection  21:18consent  6, 7,12consideration  34:14constantly  7constraints  4construction  5:12container  24  23:5, 24containers  15,17  9  22  24:1containing  9context  21continue  25  17:1continues  17continuing  6control  11controlled  7  18:7conversations  32:9, 11cooled  19correct  10  25:9, 23  15correctional  37:1cost  17  20Counsel  11countries  22court  20COVID  4  38:25COVID-19  7  2:17  25COVID-positive  14:8  13crane  11create  10  7:18  15, 16,24  10  24  14:24  16, 18,22  3  16  27:3  7  9created  21  10:14  12  24:4, 14  20  33:4crisis  6critically  11cross  4cross-contamination  8:2  20crosses  16cross-flow  20CSR  3, 24current  18custom  16customisable  29:3customized  9Dated  18day  15  21  40:18days  5deal  8  21  37:7, 9  25dealing  23  8:23decant  20

38 decanted  24  14:9decanting  25  13:24 
decanted  24  14:9decanting  25  13:24  9decided  15  34:21decisions  21decisive  20deck  10  11:17decrease  22  33:20dedicated  19  20:7degrees  9dehumidification  18:22dehumidified  12:8deliver  7  19:13, 18  22demands  1demobilize  2,4, 6demonstrate  37:20  5departments  31:14depending  9  29:17depends  10  35:15deploy  22  22:8  2  9,10  17  21  38:3deployable  19deployed  15Deputy  9Derek  14design  4designated  3detachable  34:15develop  9  8device  13dialogue  23Diaz  16different  13  29:22  13difficult  7  23:21, 22difficulties  24difficulty  18direction  15Director  14disasters  15disconnecting  33:15disease  10distance  10distancing  25dividing  10  13:11, 12doing  11  22:19double  18driving  11Drummond  9drywall  3, 6due  2easily  3easy  24  4effective  8effectively  13  8:3  16  6Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 2neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 efficient  17  37:22efforts  3electrical  12,15  4elevator  3, 7eliminate  8emergency  30:24  14  32:14enclosures  16endeavour  32:19ensure  12  8:11  24  10:22, 23  2,11  19  8  21:25  16  31:7ensured  21ensures  1entered  10entire  3entrepreneur  5:11entry  5equipment  15:19  22equipment  20:8especially  4essentially  8events  16example  14,25  5  11  28:8, 10, 11  34:7, 12  21exceed  19excellent  18excess  18,

39 19exchange  18exchanges  6  19:1Excuse 
19exchange  18exchanges  6  19:1Excuse  2Executive  2exhausted  17:19  25exist  2existing  16  8:8  5  17  29:5, 6  3expand  14expensive  2explaining  13exterior  13external  9extrapolate  26:14, 17, 25extreme  23  33:24extremely  21faced  6facilities  17,18  5, 18, 23  36:18  1facility  10  29:6, 8  4  35:7  21failures  9families  7  20:12family  17, 18  6:2  4, 5, 16fast  12father  24feet  21  13,24  5, 6, 7  27:7, 12, 14  2fellow  4Fero  3, 5  8  6:15, 19  21  31:12, 14, 22  32:5, 15FERO  1field  11  9,12fields  13  28:17filling  18filter  23, 24filtered  24finance  6find  6  11fine  13  6,14finishes  3Fiorellino  2  3:13  21  6,8  20  10  11:15  1, 18,22, 24  4, 13,21  21  1,6, 9, 14, 16  16:13, 24  1  19:12  20  21:3, 11, 19  22:21, 25  7,23  19, 23  25:4, 9, 13, 23  26:1, 11, 19  27:6, 13, 19, 23  28:3, 7, 19  6,9, 20  12  34:5, 16, 22  35:13, 25  5,12, 24  3, 23  38:12  9, 18fire  9fit  16fixed  21flash  8fleet  22flexible  18, 19  34:10  10fluctuations  18:20, 23foot  3, 15footage  13football  9, 11,17footprint  12  29:16foregoing  6,14forth  8forward  1  13:17Frank  21  2,6, 11, 14, 15, 18  4:18  4  12  10:1, 11  3  14:17, 22  4,7  2, 22  2  20:16, 22  9,14  18, 22  23:1, 20  11,20  2, 6, 10,18  16, 20, 24  27:11, 17, 21, 25  28:4, 15  2  34:11, 17  5,21  19  7,17  16frontline  1  7:3, 11  4  10:25  11

40 frontlines  7,13fulfill  9full  2  24  2
frontlines  7,13fulfill  9full  2  24  24:2  9  14full-scale  11fully  21  23  28:24  6function  24,25functionality  29:25functioning  38:22fund  16funding  2future  15gas  2  6  23:17  25gather  24General  3  29:22generally  22generation  7  39:5generator  14give  6  24:17  10  34:19giving  11glass  9, 14,16goal  13Good  12, 13,17  19Good-bye  17government  9:15  15, 16  29:1  23  36:19  13  38:2, 15, 16Gowling  19grandfather  4great  25  33:17green-grade  19:7group  15guess  3guys  13hallway  21,22  7hallways  5  30:12, 15handle  22handling  1handlings  25happen  6happened  24happy  11hard  21hard-shell  24headwall  3health  23  14:1  17  31:3  22  37:25healthcare  9hear  17, 19heated  19Held  14help  16  1,20helpful  19  39:8HEPA-filtered  17:18, 20heroic  3Hi  14high  25  8higher  17highly  3hit  16, 18home  2  18:13  17  20:25  4homeless  12homes  25  4:8  8  24  14:6, 8  11,13  1, 13, 21,23  3, 6Honourable  21horizontal  5  30:1, 15horizontally  29:15Hospital  20  6:5, 6  9  14:25  8  19:5, 21, 23  24:12, 21  10,17hospital-grade  20:3hospitals  18,22hour  19  12:6  1, 22  31:17Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 3neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 hours  23  23:7housing  24,25  11HR  11hub  7  4,22  12hubs  14  16:15  5, 6hundred  1  24:5, 14, 16, 25  25:21  9  27:2

41 , 3, 7, 22, 24  30:1  23  35:24hundred-b
, 3, 7, 22, 24  30:1  23  35:24hundred-bed  33:22hundred-thousand-dollar  35:14, 18, 20HVAC  15, 18  12:5, 11, 13, 14  13:15, 18ICU  11  34:24Ida  11idea  25  14:5  17  31:7  3imagine  9  30:1immediately  23:3  10immunocompromised  19important  21importantly  25include  16includes  22including  4  33:1  7incoming  24increase  10increasing  25independent  12:25  6  5independently  12:7Indigenous  36:21  10infected  6infection  11infections  3informative  6infrastructure  7:17, 19  5  31:11  22, 25  36:17, 20, 22  37:10in-person  15input  20install  11  26:4intentionally  21:25interconnect  10:5interconnecting  10:8interested  6interests  9interim  3interior  2International  2:3, 5  16Internet  25  21:17interrupt  22  22:19interviewing  8introduce  9inventory  11isolate  23isolated  24  17:5, 11isolation  2issue  1  1issues  23  7iteration  6  17:13Jack  23  16,17  8, 25  12:20, 23  2,16  21, 24  26:8, 15, 22  29:24  8, 18  35:23  2, 7,13  17  14Janet  23  3:19  3, 24John  19joined  11just-in-time  32:21keeping  4kind  9  6  20:19  18  35:10Kingston  4  34:13Kitts  23  16,17  8, 25  12:20, 23  2,16  20, 21, 24  26:8, 15, 22  29:24  8, 18  35:22, 23  2,7, 13  17  39:14lacking  22land  18, 22  28:1large  10  8  17:9, 14larger  6lawyer  9Lead  21  13leadership  20lease  4, 5, 6leave  8, 13Lego  25lengths  25Lett  14

42 letting  10level  23  26:10lifts  18  28
letting  10level  23  26:10lifts  18  28:23limit  5limitation  2limited  7  20:14  4limits  2lines  2  34:25literally  10living  8  2  10:6, 8  2  15:12, 21  16LLP  19load  23loading  10location  7  28:25login  4logistics  8long  7, 17  24:17, 22  14,16  9, 10LONG-TERM  1:7  10, 11, 14,17  24  24  7:4, 23  11  9:14  4, 6, 15  18:12  5, 13  31:1, 6, 10  6,23, 24  7  36:18  21  38:1, 4looking  23  4:1  14  20looks  10lot  17loved  16LTC  8  23  16:15  1  8LTCC  13lung  19made  3  3  17:17  18  40:10maintain  17making  2  19:4, 9management  6:17  17  32:18managements  6:17manager  11managers  2,7, 16manner  8  31:19  10manners  7manufacturers  24:4mark  18, 20market  8, 14markup  14Marrocco  21  3:2, 6, 11, 14, 15,18  18  4  6:12  1  3  14:17, 22  4,7  2, 22  2  20:16, 22  9,14  18, 22  23:1, 20  11,20  2, 6, 10,18  16, 20, 24  27:11, 17, 21, 25  28:4, 15  2  34:11, 17  5,21  19  7,17  10, 16masking  1mass  16matter  14meant  20  23:18medical  2,12  4, 6, 13  28:21  16  34:25medical-grade  19:3meet  9MEETING  7meetings  10member  16mentioned  13:15  10  18:5, 21, 24  20:1, 9  21  22:10  20  29:2  3  31:24  24mergers  10MEST  10  16:16  14, 16M-hm  4military  14mini-bulk  17minimum  10minimum-type  21:24Minister  9Ministry  22minus  8  18:21minutes  13mistake  5, 18mistakenly  6mitigate  1mobile  22  32:14  3mobili

43 ze  2, 4modular  19module  8mom  18Long
ze  2, 4modular  19module  8mom  18Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 4neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 monitoring  20:13month  3, 6months  24,25morning  12,13, 17  4move  12, 21  32:13  8  34:9, 14moved  15multiple  7  10:12  10municipal  15mute  15name  7natural  15needed  11, 25  9:1  18needs  20  9  22:5  4, 7NEESONS  23negative  9,13  15Network  1  24:4  25new  8note  24notes  15November  15  40:18number  13  6:18  10  7  39:2nurse  12  32:4nursing  11  14:13  23  22:6  14o  4odd  18offer  1offerings  9Officer  2, 4older  5ongoing  1onsite  24Ontario  17  22:9  5open  10operate  4Operating  4operational  21:23  1  28:25Operations  13,17  17operators  6,14opportunities  4:10opportunity  37:20  11order  25organized  23outbreak  3  16:6outbreaks  8  8:21, 23  2outlet  6outlets  4output  20outside  12,16Overall  17overlap  9overload  6oxygen  1  34:25pandemic  14  7:1pandemics  37:15part  5participants  1:14  7particular  18parties  8partner  1partnered  24partners  16passed  5pass-through  22:15patient  18  28:23patients  16  12:21  10, 11people  11  11:13  6  36:8  25Perfect  21person  7, 8  10:3  9, 16personal  8person  20perspective  31:11pharmacies  6phone  3phonetic  15physical  16physician  12  16:17physicians  20:18  4picture  10, 20piece  1place  22  38:11  7

44 plane  9plus  8  18:21  14pod  3, 24  36
plane  9plus  8  18:21  14pod  3, 24  36:1, 3pods  1point  6  29:13  7points  8Policy  14, 16positive  10  35:8  1possible  23  7:6  23post-pandemic  31:2potential  23potentially  16pour  6powder-coated  19:7power  9  21:8  14practice  25practitioners  32:4prefabricated  22:11preference  22  26:5preparation  21:24PRESENT  21  5:3  2  24presentation  39:8PRESENTERS  2:1presents  7President  12pressure  7,9, 10, 14  14  35:15pressurisation  35:16, 17pressurized  8:19prevent  2previous  12privacy  9, 14proactively  32:21problem  21  33:7  23procedure  11proceedings  40:6process  17  38:15produce  15professional  20:12project  16proper  17propose  13,18proposed  20proprietary  5  18:5, 16protect  11provide  5  9:20  6, 8  19:22  15  31:15, 25  16,18provided  20  31:18provider  15  29:1providers  10,11  25providing  7purchase  19purchaser  4put  11  13:23  7, 18,23  18  3  28:13  25putting  7  23:12  15, 21quality  25question  20  29:13  19questions  13  6:11  7  19quickly  22  7:10  3  5quite  7raised  17ramp  3  32:11ramp-up  6randomly  17range  23  35:11, 14rapid  25  23:18rapidly  19  22:8ready  20  21:22  22real  14  19:15receive  13  16:3recipient  19recommend  32:3recommendation  16:18recommendations  1recorded  11relation  16remarks  10remote  12  36:21  11remotely  15remove  11  32:12  8render  12renders  1

45 1reoccurrence  4:3report  3  38:13report
1reoccurrence  4:3report  3  38:13reporter  20  40:4, 25REPORTER  40:1Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 5neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 repurpose  36:20  10repurposed  7requested  2require  21,22  23  10  27:14  1, 15  34:8  16required  17,18, 20  16  25:17  23  29:5, 16, 18  30:24  5  32:1, 13  4,15, 17requirements  9:4  19requires  7  32:19  23  34:2, 3resident  1  10:7, 13, 20  11:22, 23  1,3, 14  4  8  16:4, 5  5, 13  19:14, 21  11  21:6residents  12,16, 20  3, 5  9:6, 7, 8, 21, 24  10:12, 24  2  13:12  6, 10,17  10, 13  31:13, 15, 18, 21  34:8  7rest  9, 14  39:10restrooms  7retardant  9return  23roles  18room  3  1,2, 10, 12, 13, 15,17, 25  5, 14  15:21  13  18:6, 8, 9  15  34:24  20, 25rooms  21  11:22, 23  3,4, 5, 7, 14  25  15:23, 24  4,5  6  11,14, 15, 16, 19, 25  22:7  3, 5, 14,16, 25  12  29:19, 20  23row  11running  3runs  25Sabrina  2  3:9, 13  21  5:6, 8  18, 20  10:10  15  12:1, 18, 22, 24  13:4, 13, 21  14:21  1, 6, 9,14, 16  13, 24  18:1  12  20:20  3, 11,19  21, 25  23:7, 23  19,23  4, 9, 13,23  1, 11, 19  27:6, 13, 19, 23  28:3, 7, 19  6,9, 20  12  34:5, 16, 22  35:13, 25  5,12, 24  2, 3,23  12  9,18safe  10  5  10:25  2  17:17  11safely  10, 13  9:24  11Sanjay  13satisfied  9scalable  21  8:18scale  2, 8scaled  23  21:21schools  17  37:1Scopacas

46 a  4  3:5, 9  16  6:14, 15  18  10:4  5 
a  4  3:5, 9  16  6:14, 15  18  10:4  5  9  13:1, 8  25  17:4, 25  4  27:9  12  33:14  16, 25  39:13seams  3, 10Secretariat  10,12, 15, 18sector  19secure  4, 12  23:25sell  6sending  18  38:15Senior  16sense  19separate  6  11:11  12  14:25  2, 3, 25separated  22separately  7septic  15, 16serial  11serve  2serviced  11,13, 15servicing  19set  1  7setting  8  19:14  4settings  9  19:5, 6Seventy-five  27:22shell  21she  20shipping  15,16  16shortage  2, 3shortages  21  31:2  8Shorthand  4,15, 25short-term  22show  17  13:22showed  10shut  20sick  24  1  17:21  2sicker  2side  21  14:4  16  18:11, 12  4  29:16  1, 4, 5similar  14sister-in-law  6:1site  12  21:24  1  23:11, 12, 14  33:16, 23sites  13situation  9  30:10  6  37:21  4size  4slide  10  11:17slides  21slow  4social  25  36:24, 25  11socialization  31:7software  8soiled  23  29:20solution  9  8:12, 25  23,25  13  11  22:16  9, 19  29:9, 21  25  34:3  22, 23solutions  8  9:15, 24somebody  4  33:8sophisticated  17:8  24sorry  11  16:9  19  26:13sort  12  20:25  12  30:10, 11, 14, 22  38:20sounds  22  30:18space  10  3,16  6, 9, 14spaces  9, 24speak  12spread  1  35:10square  21  11:13, 24  21  13:3, 5, 14, 20  27:7, 12, 14  28:2  13  30:14stacking  2staff  11, 13  16:19  14, 19  32:4staffing  17  14:13  11, 21  29:19  25standalone  6standards  9start  7 

47 17started  19station  23  22:6stations 
17started  19station  23  22:6stations  11  27:15stay  6  5  35:19Stenographer/Transcriptionist  2:23stenographically  40:11sterilize  5stockpile  15,16  19  13,14stockpiled  13strategic  20strategy  24streamline  16Street  10strong  2, 19struggling  25successful  23  33:1suction  1  34:25suitable  14suppliers  13supplies  14supply  23  16:11  21, 24,25  21support  23  31:16  15surge  20surgical  9system  24  7:2  14  4,8, 10  15, 16  24:15  7  3systems  17tailored  15takes  9, 13  24:8talk  2Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/2020 6neesonsreporting.com416.413.7755 talking  17,19, 20  22  27:5  12Team  13  16:16  15teams  10  32:16technology  7:22  5  5,15, 16temperature  12:7temporary  10  37:8tend  13tent  22, 23,25terms  15  23:3  8, 25terrific  2test  2tested  1  1  35:8Thanks  20thing  6  10  33:8, 17  6things  14  28:22thinking  16  30:4  6thought  6, 19thousand  23  35:24time  23  5  22:10  9  24:2, 6, 8  4  31:1  4  7,10times  7today  8  12tomorrow  4Toronto  3touch  17touched  17trades  24train  9training  9transcribed  40:12transcript  21  40:15transfer  8transition  9transitional  17:14transplant  19,20, 24treat  15treatment  19,20  17truck  9  23:10  16trucks  11true  14trying  15  9TSSA  6turned  14turnkey  16type  25UHN  6, 10  28:10  3, 8, 10UHN  1unable  6un

48 derstand  4:24  22  2  11:9  14  22:23 
derstand  4:24  22  2  11:9  14  22:23  25  32:17  4understood  22unfortunately  6:4uniform  9unique  15  29:3unit  20  2,3, 7, 12, 13, 15  11:1, 13  3,18  23  1,19  12  15  35:10units  22, 24  8:14, 19  2, 9,19, 22  4, 8,24  10, 11, 12  12:11  23  14:2, 11  21  18:13, 19  1,2, 4  3, 24  21:21, 22  5,7, 11  7, 24  25:3, 8, 12, 15,22  24  14  30:3  15, 22  33:15, 17  9,13  3, 13University  1  37:25UPS  7upside  15uses  10utility  24  22:7  20variety  10  22:4verified  4VERITEXT  23vertical  25  26:2, 6  15vertically  5  29:15video-conferencing  17:8view  7viral  23virtually  2visit  18  19:24visitation  15  35:1, 3visitors  20vitals  22  31:16wait  14  19walk  1, 16walking  21walkway  11wall  10  9,11, 12  7wanted  16  34:21  8wants  8washroom  2  15:22washrooms  27:15  19water  15Wave  24  5weather  20,23week  5  33:12weeks  2welfare  15well-thought-out  30:24Western  3who  7window  14windows  10Windsor  13wireless  10wood  7work  17  13  10:3  10, 14,15  14  8  32:5, 23  6, 8worked  18worker  1workers  4, 11  8:4  25  20:11  1world  15  22:13worldwide  24worse  6worsening  3written  13wrong  22, 23Yeah  19, 21  11:5, 25  9,23  1  5, 6,14  21  3,20  25  16  28:7  12  34:12  6  37:3  12, 16year  5  6years  10  6:18  4Zoom  14zoomed-in  19Long Term Care Covid-19 Commission Mtg. Fero International Inc. on 11/26/20