Prof Miles Cahill Advisor Prof Jumi Hayaki Associate Advisor Information for health professional school applicants September 27 2018 What we will do today Talk about committee review process ID: 814577
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Holy CrossHealth Professions AdvisingProf. Miles Cahill, AdvisorProf. Jumi Hayaki, Associate Advisor
Information for health professional school applicants
September 27, 2018
Slide2What we will do todayTalk about committee review processTalk about credentialsTalk about graduate school application processTalk about MCAT and review classTalk about changes to post-
bacc
and allied health review process
Slide3Who is eligible for a review?Considering applying to med/dental/vet school in this cycle (June 2019 for August 2020 start)You do not have to decide until close to application time!
Will finish requirements by end of spring semester
Or will finish post-baccalaureate plan in spring
You do not have to take the MCAT before the review
In a post-baccalaureate program now
Alumni, juniors, seniors
Applicants may be reviewed multiple times
Slide4Application timelineSeptember 2018September 28, O’Neill 112, 5:15pm: meeting to talk about applicationTalk about HC committee review process, med, dental and vet school application process
Introduce the personal statement and other materials
Talk about resources
October 2018
October 5
: Advisor request (online) and waiver (hard copy to Stein 129A) forms due by noon.
After fall break: advisors assigned
Meet with your advisor ASAPOctober 16, 7pm: Dr. Ryan talk (clinical director, MGC onc)November-December 2017November 3: Saturday personal statement workshop, 9am-11am, SML 154Start working on personal statement, materials, meet with advisorRequest recommendation letters (Nov?)MCAT information meetingJanuary 2019Finish up personal statementAttend session at Writer’s Workshop, work with advisorCompleted first draft should be done by start of spring semesterMCAT preparation course startsFebruary 2019February 15: Committee application materials due Meeting to discuss MCAT goals, etc.
February – May
2019
Committee reviews files on a rolling basis
Applicants receive committee ratings, feedback; meet with committee advisor to discuss your review
May
2019
May 1
: deadline to submit materials for
reapplication
for
2017-18
applicants
(those not yet accepted)
May (first week): Application services
open/
start entering application
Final meeting to discuss application process
Final ratings determined after spring grades;
ratings letters
sent
June
2019
June (first week)
: Application services (medical/dental) start accepting applications
Submit applications as soon as possible in cycle
Submit
your letter request materials to Health Professions Advising Office (see instructions sent in May
) after your application is finalized and submitted
July
2019
July 31
: last day to have your application
processed
by application service to guarantee committee letter
Special permission from Prof. Cahill needed to submit application
after
Complete
secondary applications
August
2019
– March
2020
August 15
: Last day to request
any letter or packet
to be sent
Interviews
typically start late in August/early Sept., continue
-spring
Medical school
decisions
start early fall, continue through
year
February 19
th
:
AAMC
traffic rule “plan to enroll” avail
April – August 2020
April
30
:
AAMC
traffic rule “commit to enroll” available
May
1
: deadline to submit
for
reapplication for
2018-19
re-applicants
Offers may continue until
matriculation – wait lists will likely be late, heavy
August 2020
:
start school!
Slide5First steps to takeOpen or reactivate your file – deadline Oct. 5If you are opening a file, submit signed PDF copy waiver form to office (heathprofessions@holycross.edu
)
if have file open with letters, no need to do this again
You must fill out the online form to request a committee advisor to open
or reactivate your file
– see “key documents” on the health professions advising web page
Meet your advisor
Start committee personal statementAttend personal statement workshop – Nov. 3, 9-11amWork with the Writer’s WorkshopWork with your advisor – brainstorm, send draftsStart researching school requirements (MSAR)Start asking for reference letters before winter break3 to review file, 5+ to write a good letterMajor professor, a non-major science lab professor, a third professor/supervisor, +Avoid letters from those close to your family. Clinical letters very helpful, even essentialTalk to your advisor before winter breakThink about how you will prepare for the entrance examKaplan info meeting in Nov.Get complete draft of statement done before you returnDue date for file materials: February 15
Slide6Choosing an advisorProf. King (Mathematics & Computer Science)Prof. Stock (M&CS)
Prof. Avila-
Bront
(Chemistry)
Prof. Joseph (Classics)
Prof. Roche (Religious Studies)
Prof. Ramos (Spanish)
Prof. Hayaki (Psych)Prof. Cahill (Econ&Acct)You will get the chance to make your advisor preferences known on your form.We will try to assign you to one of your top choices but we need to make sure advisees are evenly distributed.
Slide7Committee process: MD/DO, DMD/DDS, DVMMaterials due Feb. 15Follow instructions carefullyCover sheet, list of courses, notation, annotated activities list, personal statement, transcripts
Committee meets to discuss files and rate applicants on rolling basis
You will get a letter with a preliminary rating shortly after
Meet with your advisor to get more detailed feedback
Committee reviews all files again after spring grades
Study for and take the MCAT/DAT/GRE
Goal: have application complete as close to June 1 as possible
Ideally apply early June with exam scores in handYou must have your application processed by July 31 to get a committee letter but this may be too late
Slide8Letter collection processSend a PDF of your signed waiver to the office when you request an advisor to open your fileYou do not need to submit another waiver if you already have one on fileFill out Google form to open/reopen file, request advisor
You will get an e-mail with a spreadsheet template to list recommenders
Ms.
Kirkorian
will create a Google Sheet and share it with you. She will record when letters are received by the office on the shared Google Sheet so you can check it at any time.
You can add additional recommenders to Sheet at any time
Please be patient and wait for Sheet and letters to be processed
Send an e-mail to your recommenders using the template we give you asking for a letterLetters are submitted to hpletters@holycross.edu as an attachmentOn letterheadSigned (electronic is ok)PDFMedical/dental/vet schools will not accept letters that aren’t on signed letterhead
Slide9When is a review not necessary?You are applying to allied health: PA/NP/PT/etc.You are definitely not planning on applying this yearPlanning on a gap year (or more), post-
bacc
program, research, more classes, etc.
We are happy to give you feedback and advice in person
You may request a committee advisor to get feedback, start a relationship, start collecting letters
You will be a different person in a year (or more
)!
You will not complete your requirements (or post-bacc) by the end of spring semesterWe can’t rate you without gradesMedical schools do not allow an application with courses in progressDental school may allow a recommended class in progress (e.g. biochem)
Slide10CredentialsGPA: overall and in science coursesWe look at trajectory, individual course grades, additional courses, etc.Personal statementApprox. 7 page reflective essay
Introduce yourself to the committee: who are you? How did you get here?
Reflect on experiences that lead you to pursue a career of caring for others
This is a key part of our rating!
Reference letters
Academic ability and work ethic, engagement
Character, working with others, compassion, maturity
Clinical, research, volunteer, professional experiencesIf you are applying to DO school, you need a letter from a DO. If you are applying to dental school you need a letter from a dentistLetter may come after your committee reviewVolunteer experienceLonger/deeper engagement valued – show leadershipShow compassion for othersMay substitute for (some) clinical experience
Slide11CredentialsClinical experienceWork/volunteer/internship in hospital/nursing home/office/etc. settingShadowing less desirable as it is “passive” Volunteer or work caring for others in a non-medical setting
This may substitute for (most) clinical experience
Key is experience caring for others in a stressful situation, learning to communicate with people with different backgrounds
Research experience
Not essential, but helpful
Professional experience
Not essential, but
helpfulOther experiencesAthletics, clubs, etc.We don’t use MCAT/DAT/GRE for rating, but will for advisory purposesTest scores very important for med/dental/vet schools
Slide12What are we (and medical/dental/vet schools) looking for?Can the applicant handle the rigorous academics of curriculum and license exams?Has the applicant demonstrated maturity? Working well with others? Leadership? Engagement?
Has the applicant demonstrated a commitment to helping others in need?
Does the applicant have experience working with people from different socio/economic backgrounds, in stressful situations?
Is the applicant familiar with the job health care providers do? The training involved?
Slide13Committee ratingsVery highly recommendOutstanding in every category. No flaws.Highly recommendStrong in every category, but not top in all categories
May have a flaw that is offset by other excellent credentials
Recommend
You are a solid applicant in every category but have some weaknesses that can be addressed to make you a stronger applicant. We think you are capable of succeeding in medical/dental/etc. school, but you should be careful which schools you apply to.
Wait to apply
You are not yet a competitive applicant
We will give you advice on how you can become more competitive
Historically, students at all levels of recommendation (R through VH) have gotten in at similar rates (80%+). The recommendation level corresponds to what sorts of schools an applicant should apply to, and not if they will be accepted.Your rating reflects your record, is not a substituteWe are trying to show you how medical/dental/vet schools will view your application, not act as gatekeepers!It is expensive to apply to schools and much harder to get into medical school as a re-applicant
Slide14Cost of medical schoolCost of applying to medical school: $3,000-4,000Application fees, exams, travel to interviews, etc.Typical private medical schoolTufts: $90,000+/year (tuition, meals, living, etc.)
Avg. med school student graduates with
>
$200,000 in debt
Typical public medical school
UMass: $55,000/year (tuition, feels, living, etc.)
Avg. student graduates with
>$100,000 in debtDental school even more expensive! $120,000/yrVet school also very expensive
Slide15National applicationsMedical school is becoming more highly competitive50,905 applications to MD for fall 2017 start20,864 started medical school in fall 2016; 41% of applicants
Typical MD medical school
Tufts: 10,951 complete applicants, 926 interviews for class of 211
UMass: 1,012 in-state+2,576 out, 493+281 interviews for class of 134+28
Nationally, students apply to 18-22 schools, ~40% get in to MD, similar matriculation rate for DO
Holy Cross: admission rate
approx
double, after advising, incl. DO20,836 applications to DO (2017)7,197 first year students (35% matriculation rate)Typical DO schoolCCOM-MWU: 5,712 applications for a class of 208UNE-COM: 4,300 applications for 600 interviews and a class of 178Dental school is also becoming increasingly competitiveTufts: 3,700 apps for 195 seats
Slide16Consider DO90% of training the samePass equivalent license examTrain in similar/same residencies – same accreditation!MUCH better chance at residency than overseas
A little easier to get into quantitatively
Less concerned with quantitative scores
MCAT:
avg
: 503 for DO vs. 511 for MD
GPA (overall/science) slightly lower (3.5/3.4 for DO vs 3.7/3.6 for MD)
Need a letter from a DO: your responsibilityResourcesSee www.AACOM.orgThe DOs by Norman GervitzJune 2009 issue of Academic Medicine
Slide17Come to fall eventsDr. David Ryan, MD, Clinical Director, MGH Cancer Center
October
16, 7pm,
Rehm
Library
Georgetown School of Medicine Virtual Information Session
October 30, 5pm Zoom
Slide18Consider NP/PA, allied healthThink about your goalsWhat do you want to do every dayNot what initials do you want on your name tag
Do you want to work with patients?
Diagnose, treat, prescribe?
Think about NP/PA, other allied health
Other careers may allow more independence
Podiatry (very similar to med school)
Optometry
Physical therapy, etc.
Slide19Other professional programsDental schoolSame committee process, timeline as MDGPA a little lower than MDUsually competitive above
3
.0 GPA (overall & science)
Need a letter from a dentist
DAT important: want > 17 on each section
Veterinary school
Same committee process
Deadline Sept. 15 – but check!Usually take GREExperience with large and small animals essentialRequirements vary between schoolsUsually need individual letters
Slide20PA, NP, PT, OD, etc. and post-baccsImportant differencesHave June, Aug., Jan., etc. start dates
Deadlines vary – year round, including before committee meets!
Requirements vary widely between schools
Schools do not accept committee letters, committee ratings
We will help you gather your credentials, choose reference letters, choose schools, write personal statement, etc. Come see us!
Slide21Special factorsSee me if you are in one of these categoriesNot a permanent US resident
Are currently in ROTC
Serious disciplinary action like suspension or probation
Slide22General adviceWork with your advisor earlyWaiting until last minute is asking for troubleBe professionalBe formal in all correspondence – e-mails, phone calls, etc.
Use correct grammar, spelling in all communication
Always use titles, never first names
Be polite and friendly to everyone
Use a professional-sounding e-mail address
Be engaged in what you do
Classes, activities, etc.
ReadDr. J. O’Connell, Dr. A. Gawande, Dr. P. Kalanithi, Dr. R. CampoWatch your public profile and behave wellMed schools may Google you, look at your Facebook page, etc. Don’t let a foolish mistake jeopardize your chancesSerious disciplinary action may be the end of your application