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Samples amp Populations Robin Beaumont 11022012 With much help from Professor Chris Wilds material University of Auckland Aspects of the P value P Value sampling probability statistic ID: 443737

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P Values - part 2Samples & Populations

Robin Beaumont11/02/2012With much help fromProfessor Chris Wilds material University of AucklandSlide2

Aspects of the P value

P Value

sampling

probability

statistic

RuleSlide3

Resume

P value = P(observed summary value + those more extreme |population value = x)A P value is a conditional probability considering a range of outcomes

Sample value

Hypothesised population valueSlide4

The Population

Ever constant

at least for your study!

= Parameter

Sample estimate = statistic

P value = P(observed summary value + those more extreme |population value = x)Slide5

One sample

Many thanks Professor Chris Wilds at the University of Auckland for the use of your materialSlide6

Size matters – single samples

Many thanks Professor Chris Wilds at the University of Auckland for the use of your materialSlide7

Size matters – multiple samples

Many thanks Professor Chris Wilds at the University of Auckland for the use of your materialSlide8

We only have a rippled mirror

Many thanks Professor Chris Wilds at the University of Auckland for the use of your materialSlide9

Standard deviation - individual level

= measure of variability within sample

'Standard Normal distribution'

Total Area = 1

0

1

=

SD value

68%

95%

2

Area:

Between + and - three standard deviations from the mean = 99.7% of area

Therefore only 0.3% of area(scores) are more than 3 standard deviations ('units') away.

-

But does not take into account sample size

= t distribution

Defined by sample size aspect

~

df

Remember the previous tutorialSlide10

Sampling level -‘accuracy’ of estimate

From:

http://onlinestatbook.com/stat_sim/sampling_dist/index.html

= 5/√5 = 2.236

SEM = 5/√25 = 1

We can predict the accuracy of your estimate (mean)

by just using the SEM formula.

From a single sample

Talking about means hereSlide11

Example - Bradford Hill, (Bradford Hill, 1950 p.92)

mean systolic blood pressure for 566 males around Glasgow = 128.8 mm. Standard deviation =13.05 Determine the ‘precision’ of this mean. SEM formula (

i.e

13.5/ √566) =0.5674

“We may conclude that our observed mean may differ from the true mean by as much as ± 1.134 (.5674 x 2) but not more than that in around 95% of samples.” page 93. [edited]

All possible values of mean

125

126

127

128

129

130

131

xSlide12

We may conclude that our observed mean may differ from the true mean by as much as ± 1.134 (.5674 x 2) but not more than that in around 95% of samples.”That is within the range of 127.665 to 129.93

125

126

127

128

129

130

131

x

The range is simply the probability of the mean of the sample being within this interval

P value = P(observed summary value + those more extreme |population value = x)

P value of near 0.05 =

P(getting a mean value of a sample of 129.93 or one more extreme in a sample of 566 males in Glasgow |population mean = 128.8 mmHg )

in R to find P value for the t value 2*pt(-1.99,

df

=566) = 0.047Slide13

Variation what have we ignored!Slide14

Sampling summary

The SEM formula allows us to: predict the accuracy of your estimate ( i.e. the mean value of our sample) From our single sampleAssumes we have a Random sampleSlide15

Aspects of the P value

P Value

sampling

probability

statistic

Rule